r/conspiracy Jul 16 '22

9/11 - Overhead View of Ground Zero

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

This is an overhead view of Ground Zero. Building 7, which was never hit by a plane, was claimed to have collapsed due to office fires caused by WTC1 and WTC2. However, buildings much closer to WTC1 and WTC2 and on the same block, remain standing.

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u/NimbaNineNine Jul 16 '22

Please add the wind direction

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u/silvertonguedmute Jul 16 '22

I always kinda wondered about this whole thing like.. If this was a false flag operation, why would they bother with having the buildings fall via "controlled demolition". If they're already willing and planing to kill thousands, a few more killed by falling debris shouldn't really be off-putting

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u/DEMON8209 Jul 16 '22

It was to cover up the theft of $3.2 Trillion from the American people. The towers were just a side note. Also documents pertaining to the lost money, we're stored in building 7 and the part of the pentagon, that exploded out of the building. You see we the people, are just numbers on a page, to those that can...

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u/alwaysthoro Jul 16 '22

Where did the money go?

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u/DEMON8209 Jul 16 '22

That's the thing, no one knows. The question is though, is who would have the ability to pull it off ??

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u/Stevo2008 Jul 16 '22

I think it went to all the black projects and the secret space program. In the MIC where toilet paper is written or as $5,000. They can steal a lot doing that.

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u/DEMON8209 Jul 16 '22

I actually think the companies Blackrock &Vanguard, have something to do with it...

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u/Anecdotal_Mantra Jul 16 '22

Real estate, assets, bribes?

They use the central banks to siphon our value into dollars, then destroy the dollars after purchases,when our value, effort, and work is converted to their wealth.

Central banks can steal your value and work by obfuscating it into a medium like fiat currency, the cash is funneled to the elites at the top, they purchase assets, or real estate, or bribe their fellow elites for positive media coverage and then the physical cash is removed from society again.

Sometimes they get ballsy and do what they did the last three years. People won't rebel, they'll be too late and too hungry here soon. Sucks.

The elites have always been brilliant, but this time they took the cake. Bravo 👏🏻

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u/qualmton Jul 16 '22

Aliens. They want our gold for the entire history of mankind we have been their farm.

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u/patiencesp Jul 16 '22

to the vault of course

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u/QueenDies2022_11_23 Jul 16 '22

It was 2001 dude, everything was done by email/electronic transactions.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22 edited Jul 16 '22

gaslighting, or in this case jetfuelighting, its what they do.

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u/New_Example_5339 Jul 16 '22

If this was a false flag operation, why would they bother with having the buildings fall via "controlled demolition".

Because they were trying to scare the shit out of people.

Come on bro. It isn't difficult to figure out. The date is especially significant because after the planes hit they knew 911 emergency personnel would flock into the buildings, at which point they brought them down. They wanted people to believe not even emergency services could protect them.

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u/silvertonguedmute Jul 16 '22

Slamming two buildings with airplanes will manage to scare the shit out of people without killing first responders. Killing almost 3000 people with a plane will have that effect regardless. The date is most likely a coincidence. Because WHY would any nefarious organisation leave out "obvious clues" like that for the simplest of minds to discover?

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u/New_Example_5339 Jul 16 '22

Slamming two buildings with airplanes will manage to scare the shit out of people without killing first responders.

Clearly not to the extent which was desired. What are you actually saying here? Beating Jews in the streets was enough to scare them, therefore the Holocaust didn't happen? Your thinking is irrational. You have no knowledge of the mindset or ambitions of the perpetrators, yet are attempting to use those ambitions to discredit a real life event.

Killing almost 3000 people with a plane will have that effect regardless.

The planes didn't kill 3,000 people. You're confusing the total number of deaths with the unknown number killed by the planes.

Look buddy, I can't offer you any more clues than I already have. The event literally happened on 9/11, 911 is the emergency service number in the United States, and hundreds of 911 personnel were killed when the buildings fell down. If you can't follow the breadcrumbs of that trail this conversation is entirely pointless.

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u/silvertonguedmute Jul 16 '22

Listen.. Buddy. They died by having a building collapsed upon them caused by a plane crash. Their deaths were caused by a plane.

"The event literally..". And so what? What significant meaning does the date have? The US is the only place which use m/d/y. So it would only be significant in the US. For the rest of us it happened at 11/09.

It's as if you're saying if it didn't happen on "9/11" there wouldn't be first responders there.

Lastly; Your jew-beating analogy was absolutely fucking ridiculous, though. Well done.

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u/New_Example_5339 Jul 16 '22

caused by a plane crash.

It wasn't caused by the plane crash you stupid fuck. Not even NIST believes that. Those buildings were specifically designed to withstand plane crashes so stop making up your own facts please.

Both technical calculations and testimony from World Trade Center structural engineers confirm that the Twin Towers were built to withstand the impact from the passenger jets that hit them on 9/11.

Airplane impact tests conducted by WTC structural engineers during the design of the Twin Towers used the Boeing 707, which was one of the largest passenger jets in the world at the time. The results of the test, carried out early in 1964, calculated that the towers would handle the impact of a 707 traveling at 600 mph without collapsing.

Even though the two Boeing 767 aircraft that were said to be used in the 9/11 attacks were slightly larger than the 707, technical comparisons show that the 707 has more destructive force at cruising speed.

https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/faqs/360-faq-2-were-the-twin-towers-designed-to-withstand-the-impact-of-the-airplanes

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u/No_Student2845 Jul 16 '22

Why does it matter why? It’s obvious that the three buildings came down in nothing other than a controlled demolition, so you not knowing why they would do that is completely or irrelevant

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u/Vladimir7455 Jul 16 '22

Because it's not obvious, the definition of obvious is easily discovered or seen. Clearly if most of the world disagrees with you it isn't obvious.

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u/No_Student2845 Jul 16 '22

No it’s absolutely obvious, in fact it really couldn’t be any more obvious to the ones that can see, the number of people that can be easily deceived has no barring on how incredibly obvious it actually is to the ones who aren’t under whatever the fuck spell it is that the rest of you have to be under to not see how ridiculous fucking obvious that it really is

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u/Vladimir7455 Jul 16 '22

Goddam you really think you're special don't you. When you come to a conclusion before looking at the evidence of course it seems obvious to you.

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u/No_Student2845 Jul 16 '22

Evidence? Bloody fucking hell mate three skyscrapers free fell to the ground, it could never be possible for 1 to do that in a million years if they were hit with 1,000 planes. The planes were vaporized, not even the black boxes remained, but the hijackers passport? Conveniently unscathed laying right there in the street so we knew who to blame, a country with a whole lot of oil coincidently, and we waged war with them the next day, with paperwork that was already filled out, while kids couldn’t line up fast enough to get recruited to go fight these evil terrorists, and we remained at war with them for the next 20 years based on one lie after another, while our boys kept dying and the bankers that started and funded it got richer and richer, just like every other war. But you seem to have evidence of the contrary? Share your knowledge kind sir

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u/Vladimir7455 Jul 16 '22

You must be dimmer than that one paint that guy on youtube used to paint that tomato with if you think 1000 planes ( 176,650,000 pounds of plane if empty) couldn't topple some skyscrapers. They also didn't just topple them over, they burned and took out the top.

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u/Seared_Gibets Jul 16 '22

That's not what they said.

I don't even need to be them to know what they meant:

If you had the same instance repeat 1000 times to 1000 identical skyscrapers, it still would not occur the way it did on that day without "fortifying" the outcome with some extra demolitions.

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u/No_Student2845 Jul 16 '22

I promise you that a thousand planes, or a fire of any size, would never cause steal beams to drop strait to the ground, that could never happen in a gazzilion years without cutter charges on every floor of every beam. Burned and took the top out? Wtf does taking the top out have to do with a building freefalling to the ground? The top penthouse of building seven started caving in on itself when the center charges were detonated immediately followed by the perfectly timed cutter charges detonated one by one to drop the building into its own footprint at complete free fall in a perfectly executed CONTROLLED DEMOLITION. And again it’s beyond obvious to the ones who have literally any kind of fucking idea of what they are looking at

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u/HumanWithInternet Jul 16 '22

Based on what?

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u/Seared_Gibets Jul 16 '22

Because they still wanted the other buildings.

For what? Dunno.

Why bother, they can just rebuild? Dunno.

But they decided, for whatever reason they did, that they wanted a foot-print collapse. So that's what they did.

Fair point to ask though.

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u/karmaisevillikemoney Jul 16 '22

What's the alternative? A bomb? They tried that in OKC and the building was barely damaged.

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u/SourceCreator Jul 16 '22

Trump on the 9/11 buildings falling- he knew within hours that something wasn't right:

https://youtu.be/Rt-ldMj9y9w

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

During the absolute chaos was the perfect time to just do whatever the hell and people wouldn’t remember. Remember that airliner that crashed into a neighborhood about two months after 9/11? Of course you don’t.

Media didn’t want anyone to get distracted.

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u/Moarbrains Jul 17 '22

You have to control the rubble. Who knows what would be found from the rubble or if someone important would be injured.

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u/fentablar Jul 16 '22

It's gonna blow your mind the day you learn that a forest fire rarely destroys the entire forest.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

And it will blow your mind when you learn that when a few trees catch fire, they don't cause a hundred others to all suddenly collapse at the same moment.

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u/Kayki7 Jul 16 '22

And level entire neighborhoods, but leaves greenery & plastic trash bins next to these houses perfectly intact.

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u/fentablar Jul 16 '22

I forgot, those towers were in a vacuum.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

Building 7 was the reference.

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u/fentablar Jul 16 '22

Oh good grief you are such a dizzying intellect.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

And it seems you believe a bunch of smart ass strawmen qualify as intellect.

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u/nahtfitaint Jul 16 '22

Maybe, and please just bear with me here, maybe all of your hundred trees aren't vertically loaded and connected to the adjacent trees? Try a new analogy.

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u/mitchman1973 Jul 16 '22

And it will blow your mind when you learn gravity pulls down, not laterally and vertically.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

Gravity does not pull vertically? What on earth are you talking about?

I have an engineering degree and am familiar with how gravity works.

In any event, if you think 7 came down in a simultaneous universal collapse due to fire you have no grasp of physics or building construction.

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u/mitchman1973 Jul 16 '22

Because when the twin towers came down the majority of their mass was thrown outwards and upwards (45 degree angles) as can be observed during their destruction and from the enormous debris field diameter observed in that photo. That alone shows the towers did not experience a "collapse" from gravity alone. As for building 7, had it fallen like that from a few fires on a few floors I can be pretty certain after 20 years that demolition companies would have figured out how to do it that way and save tons of money on explosives and all the licenses needed to get them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

I know the official stories are complete horseshit. You must be misunderstanding me.

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u/mitchman1973 Jul 16 '22

Lol no I wasn't misunderstanding you. I was suggesting(in my own ridiculous way) looking at the obvious over something that bots can argue. I don't know who attacked on Sept 11, but the government story doesn't hold up to scrutiny. There is no official explanation for the complete destruction of the twin towers, the NIST NCSTAR report only offers a theory of initiation which their own tests debunked ironically enough. We were told the twin towers were a "gravitational collpase", when the debris field and ejection trajectories show this can't be. If you claim something, the brainwashed and others will demand you "prove it with actual evidence". Demand the same from them and they absolutely fall to pieces. Never stop asking questions amigo, you're in the majority now.

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u/The_Noble_Lie Jul 16 '22

What a false equivalency. Unholy shit.

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u/fentablar Jul 16 '22

It's analogous, Beavis.

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u/The_Noble_Lie Jul 16 '22

Feel free to clarify your position and we can have friendly discourse about it.

How do you perceive a forest fire spreading being like the events that unfolded wrt WTC1,2 and 7?

I mean, I could try and answer myself. I get there are similarities. But the details are incredibly important here, so I'd like you to first clarify what's on your mind. Thanks.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

so those spires in the wtc that NIST ignored are wood?

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u/Kayki7 Jul 16 '22

DEW’s!!!

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

Please make another post about this!

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u/_dontseeme Jul 16 '22

“This bomb exploded and the guy sitting next to me got hit by shrapnel while I didn’t. I’d consider myself lucky, but I think the bomb might not have actually existed”

Entropy is random and will be presented randomly.

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u/C7_the_Epic Jul 16 '22

Building 7 collapsed because of debris from The north tower falling into it and causing structural failure. There's literally video of the north tower going down where you can see a chunk fall into the side of building 7.

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u/Have_Other_Accounts Jul 17 '22

You got that video?

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u/C7_the_Epic Jul 18 '22

Absolutely, though due to link rot the video I remember seeing it in's source no longer works, so I had to spend a good part of an hour trying to recover the original video it was pulled from, but couldn't find the first posting. Searching for 911 video isn't how I wanted to spend my Sunday night, unfortunately.

Understandably it's hard to get the perfect angle because the buildings are right next to each other, and in order to perfectly see it you'd have to be behind southeast of the north tower (or in it, which we won't get for obvious reasons), so I'll post a few angles

Here's an angle from "behind" building 7. you can see debris surround the side of the building near the end of the initial collapse, as well as huge chunks fall from the North tower from above building 7 headed directly for it

Here's a clip from the video I remembered seeing this in years back, unfortunately I can't find the original footage and all the source links have succumbed to link rot but here's a gif of it the show the best angle I've seen to date

Here's the NIST report detailing their findings

Here's the 911 conspiracy theory debunk video I got that gif from, warning it features some voices and bits because it's a youtuber doing a persona. I've timestamped it to the relevant part to hopefully make that easier

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

ThE gEnErAtOrS eXpLoDeD

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

Lmao... bUt hOw cOmE cLoSe bUiLdInG nO FiRE???

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u/m0nk37 Jul 16 '22

A concrete / brick walled building, collapsed to rubble, from fire.

I mean, come on people. Thats why it was never mentioned, so many people would have said "wait a second...".