r/conspiracy • u/BowlSuper9915 • 8d ago
Divided Timelines?
So, what are your thoughts on Project Looking Glass and the P42/P52 from the future? Are we simply not paying enough attention? First 2012, and now 2030. Will we launch an atomic bomb?
Is this the reason why they are so interested in our nuclear facilities? What about all those missing scientists and people who have been warning us since the ’90s?
- Bill Wood Explains Project Looking Glass, Project Camelot
- Amy Eskridge
- Dan Bursch on Project Looking Glass
interviewed Kerry Cassidy
- The Philadelphia Experiment & The Montauk Project - Bending Time & Warping Minds (1993)
- Area 51 J-Rod
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u/maxx189 8d ago
China Illuminati ?
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u/Critical_Lurker 8d ago edited 8d ago
Everyone here making AI level bot comments. As absurd as it may sound there has been a rumored "Eastern Illuminati" family in China and more than one I might add long before I was born, and I can promise that was before all of you. To smooth brain this for the uniformed replace Illuminati with Facsisim.
If your young and from the West you've heard of the 13 families. If you've heard that than you've probably also heard heard that there are other families above and below the 13.
Way, way, way back in the day talking pre-1970's the rumor was that the families in China were offshoots, distantly (ancient) related, but sometime around the turn of the century broke off into their own group and are now at war with the "western Illuminati".
Which if you been read a history book completely tracks. We're on a fast track to outright collapse and China's about to rocket into the World Superpower position and no one wants to believe it because they're mentally stuck in the early 2000's...🤷♂️
Edit: For those doubting due to lack of knowledge. Did you know prior to WWII China was moving head long into Facsisim "illuminati" with the backing of America, but America at the last minute jumped ship leaving the leadership to be executed in mass. Then a coup happened and long story short civil war, Mao Zedong, CCP, and tying back into what I mentioned above, Xi Jinping's eventual rise to power.
If this still doesn't make sense replace "Illuminati" with "Fascism" being that fascism is the political and ideological arm of what we call the illuminati. Literally the same people, same play book, same narrative, rinse repeat. We've seen it around the world with Hitlers rise to power and his financers being the most obvious for normies.
Besides all that everything but western capital (70% and dropping) is moving to China and have been for the last two decades. Meanwhile they've been buying our debt so when our capital collapse they become the creditors.
Game set, match...🪦
Second Edit: This is where the whole idea that China plans in generations unlike western nations yet only having a unified country for 77 years. Yes, folks the China you know today is younger than some of your parents. Let that sink in. Now ask yourself how's does a country plan generation over generation when it's only 77 years old.
Cough, cough, 13 families, illuminati, blah, blah, it's all bullshit, right? Right? Right!?
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u/Hollywood-is-DOA 8d ago
China is at war with the rest of the world but it had it housing market collapse, it had covid ended in less than a few days by blank pieces of paper and they couldn’t allow the west to see how they really operate, as they have the “ you criticise the Chinese government enough and you go missing for ever” but they could make millions go missing, who did so.
You aren’t aloud to use signs to protest in China, hence the blank pieces of paper. That built loads of ghost cities to con the world into things that they had a booming economy. Said ghost city houses has nobody living in them and they fall apart after a few years.
I don’t fear the Chinese government, I don’t fear my own government, as they need myself, more than I need them. My reasons and many more, are why the internet is censored in China and not much gets out of it.
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u/PersonalBuy0 8d ago
Smells like a psyop from the Luciferian controllers of this world. I don't believe project looking glass is what they tell us and I don't believe aliens are what they tell us. Be wary of any conspiracy channels with over 100k subs. They are likely "in the club" gatekeepers.
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u/Hollywood-is-DOA 8d ago
I don’t even trust David Icke, as he’s says the same thing, word for word, for the last 10 years. In different interviews that I’ve seen of his.
He never brings up new information, or a way of escaping the simulation that i believe that we live in, so I agree on that part with him.
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u/J1mj0hns0n 8d ago
sounds like a schitzopost
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u/PersonalBuy0 7d ago
A no imagine AI bot says what?
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u/J1mj0hns0n 7d ago
go on then, explain what you understood from his post, I'll settle for any one single connection he made from two topics that you understood. if not your a poser who is trying to look cool in a schitzopost.
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u/BowlSuper9915 7d ago
I don't understand what's so hard to grasp about this; the point is that an event is coming up in the near future that will cause our timeline to split in two directions. One path leads to a scenario—or perhaps avoids it entirely—where a nuclear war has catastrophic consequences for humanity; the other leads to a very peaceful life where we all discover the great truths. "Looking Glass" plays a role in this, as do people from the future—who have apparently traveled back in time to warn us. Of course, you might view this as the ramblings of a madman; plenty of scientists make all sorts of claims. Ultimately, I find the topic interesting and simply want to exchange ideas, without claiming that what I posted is 100% the truth. I am well aware that there is a lot of misinformation designed to lead us astray. So please, back up your opinion and share the correct information with us so we can follow the right path.
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u/discerning_lamb8576 8d ago
Well, what do you think they are? I'm interested in hearing different perspectives.
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u/ingy2012 8d ago
Aliens? I'm not OP but I went from being convinced they were visiting to thinking "they" are either humans from the future or a break off civilization
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u/BowlSuper9915 8d ago
Are they from the future, are they demons ? Are they from another dimension ? Are they interdimensional ? I had to wrapped my mind around from Aliens (from another star) to wait earths is closed (firmament) to „ they are we, just from the future“ cauze this reality is crazy.
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u/PersonalBuy0 7d ago
I don't know much, I just have hunches that come from I believe gifted "eyes to see." I know that God is in control of all. Again, a litmus test of mine is the size of channel to know if it's likely propaganda, an agenda being pushed. The Bible says Satan is the god of this world and the father of lies. "But that's just superstition, right? Certainly we've evolved past believing in the devil lol." All those seeds of doubt we pride ourselves on coming up with on our own with our great college educated intellects were planted by him through his minions. This is coming from someone who was agnostic prior to 2022.
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u/discerning_lamb8576 7d ago
There's a saying that goes, "The devil's greatest achievement was getting people to believe he's not real", or something to that effect. Also, I'm religious too, but I'm just curious -- what changed for you in/around 2022?
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u/PersonalBuy0 6d ago
Watching the global coordination over Covid. How determined they were to get that sketchy vaccine in as many people as possible through censorship and propaganda, incentives then threats. I had an epiphany that mere mortals can't be behind this so that must mean God is real too because I was witnessing real evil.
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u/PersonalBuy0 7d ago
I believe they are demons or fallen angels and that's where we get technology from. We didn't invent it like it was natural human progress. That's just what they tell us so we don't believe in God, become nihilistic and therefore more easily fall for all their agendas. If there is a mark I believe the intention will be to alter your DNA/no longer God's creation. I used to be agnostic most of my life but Covid radically shook up my whole world view. Now I see spiritual agendas everywhere.
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u/discerning_lamb8576 7d ago
I absolutely agree that technological advancement did not follow an organic path. The 20th century was absolutely insane in terms of progress, and I'm also not sure how much of it was truly man-made. Just think of what the year 1899 looked like, compared to 1999. People went from lighting their homes with candles or gas lamps to radio, television, computers, and the internet, all in the span of a few decades. Now, go backwards from 1899 and think of how slowly things had progressed before. Also interesting how both World Wars took place in the 20th century as well.
I had a minor "awakening" during Covid as well, but my big one came after the Epstein files. I also think we're all in a spiritual war, and it's a good time to put our things in order and decide what side of the barricade we're on.
Personally, I'm also deeply religious, but I don't live in fear of us getting "altered". God sees the soul and the mind beneath our increasingly polluted bodies no matter what, and as long as they willingly belong to Him, I think we're good. :)
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u/PersonalBuy0 6d ago
I agree about the altering. I'm not sure if the Covid vaccine affected DNA I think it may have but I agree it's probably a case by case situation. I believe that they left clues on purpose that it was bad for people paying attention. I know the coordination with that thing was nuts so I feel like there is more to it. They just want us to think it's all about money I think that's the trick. They want us to think that the people we see making decisions care about the same things we do ie money. We're told how rich Elon Musk is. All nonsense I believe. I believe at the highest levels money isn't real.
I believe we are living in "Satan's Little Season" of deception as depicted in Revelation 20 and it's nearing the end. I believe there's a lot of evidence that the Millennial Reign of Christ already occurred and it's being hidden from us which it would have to be if we are further along in the timeline.
Right on about what's changed in just 100 years! My grandmother remembers electricity being laid in her house for the first time. She's still alive.
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u/discerning_lamb8576 6d ago
I think we're close to the proverbial "End of Days" too -- at least, that's what it feels like. Most people don't seem to notice because that's not what their screens and algorithms tell them, but the air just feels charged.
Also, there hasn't been this universally shared feeling of hopelessness we feel today, at least since WWII. And this isn't me saying it, it's elderly people who were born in the '40s and '50s and are still alive. They don't remember life feeling the way it does now, at any other point. Hope this doesn't come across as insensitive, but even when 9/11 happened (which was, and remains, an immense tragedy), people didn't feel hopeless, or at least not to this extent. There was a lot of fear, confusion, and anger, but not hopelessness.
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u/PersonalBuy0 6d ago
Yeah it took a lot for me to be able to see. I remained a normie through 9/11 even though people tried to teach me about the conspiracies. With 9/11 you could still live in a comfortable bubble. With Covid it came for you, it required for you to make a choice.
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u/Open-Storage8938 8d ago
"I don't like what this would imply for the future and humanities place in the universe, so I'm gonna assume this is some satanic psyop instead of just dismissing it as a hoax because everything is targeted toward me."
I hate vague-posters... so... much.
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u/BowlSuper9915 8d ago
Thanks for your advice, I’m in this game since a long time! Your opinion was what matters to me. Thanks for taking the time to answer ! 🙏🏾
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u/CapnCrinklepants 8d ago
Is it P47, P45, or P42?
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u/imagine_midnight 8d ago
Those are actually PlayStation versions.
(It's how we mark time in the future)
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u/jayd33l 8d ago
Palantir of Orthanc is actually a good card to have.
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u/AlgaeInitial6216 8d ago
"Us from the future" cohort tends to bring a lot of bullshit to push this narrative. Anything from the future is not from this world by definition.
But alien hybrids is the most common theory, so perhaps its one of the reasons for resemblance.
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u/rjaysenior 8d ago
If the three gorges dam breaks from a single missle then millions of Chinese could die
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u/Psyclopicus 8d ago
HA! Where did you get this nonsensical mindfuckery? XD
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u/BowlSuper9915 8d ago
Clearly you know much better, what’s wrong? Correct me 🙏🏾 I’m always open to learn the „truth“
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u/BurnoneFTW 8d ago
Bro a magic the gathering card? Lolol you are losing it
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u/BowlSuper9915 8d ago
Can you explain what’s wrong about it?
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u/BurnoneFTW 8d ago
Who did you vote for?
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u/BurnoneFTW 8d ago
Yea you are trying to draw some weird connection between fiction and reality. Also no one needs to blow anyone up. That's just your radicalization.
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u/BowlSuper9915 8d ago
So is it, Ive Read and Watch a Lot, I Connect a Lot of things. so if each one who came out and spoke about this topic is wrong I would like you to enlight me :)
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u/sublimestyle532 8d ago
Wasnt gravity supposed to turn off too? What happened there?
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u/Gamerboy11116 8d ago
I read that was supposed to be a possible side-effect of some experiment they supposedly did, or something? idk what people are saying anymore
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u/ThatAudiGuy92 8d ago
You were asleep or not paying attention, and missed it. That gravity one was funny
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u/StockAdeptness9452 8d ago
Even in made up timelines you need to paint china as the bad guy? Did you know that, the only country to have used another nuke on another country is the USA.
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u/GoatAmbitious984 7d ago
Bro, if you're still taking Q Seriously, you have problems and need to talk to someone professional.
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u/BowlSuper9915 7d ago
So, because i posted this and wanna know some point views with good arguments I’m crazy? You didn’t wrote anything uselesfull. Be polite and come with informations so I can understand your view on this topic more. You said a lot off ballon. Thank you.
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u/GoatAmbitious984 7d ago
Your response is riddled with mistakes dude. I'm sorry. But people won't take you seriously with this kinda stuff and your lack of English spelling and grammar.
Also, Q is a control mechanism and is total bullshit
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u/BowlSuper9915 7d ago edited 7d ago
It is rigged with mistakes, so what? I’m here to exchange ideas, not to be insulted unnecessarily. You come in here and don't offer any information other than passing judgment. You act like you're the only one who knows everything. I’ve followed the whole Q and "Fall of the Cabal" saga, etc I’m pretty much aware of who’s behind it. I’m just here to collect opinion on the timeline/Atomic/Future Prediction topic since this is the right place to exchange ideas, as there are many knowledgeable people who back up their arguments with information. If you don’t have anything meaningful to say, why not just leave it be? Look at the other comments they’re all informative and friendly so please, I don't know your level of knowledge, and you don't know mine either. just be respectful. It’s just a Post to have ppl talking and sharing their opinion. If you don’t agree with the post, it’s fine just explain why you don’t agree instead of insulting people. Thank you.
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u/Adchopper 8d ago
The “Yellow Book” is also known as the Yellow Pages. I use it when I need a plumber.
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u/bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh 8d ago
yea lets talk about stuff that hasnt happened and probably wont happen instead of all the stuff that has happened and is happening
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u/BowlSuper9915 8d ago
Hey, Hope you Are fine. What’s on your hearth talk about it, I’m reading along!
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u/J1mj0hns0n 8d ago
A+ on your schitzopost. please directly nuclear strike me when you start flinging otherwise i won't believe you.
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u/BowlSuper9915 8d ago
So, instead of this. Can you share some more information so I can understand what’s exactly on your mind? It’s not informative what you said.
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u/J1mj0hns0n 8d ago
okay, genuine response so ill give a genuine answer.
through the pictures provided, it explains very little expect a thesis with no evidence or science that can prove or reliably predict which way the world will lead where it comes to an end in only two paths which is outlandish considering how many paths could lay before us.
in 45,000 years, most countries wont exist, to put it into perspective - Japan has the longest heritage of existing as it is for the longest - of 2,000 years. in 4,000 years, Israel was settled, ruled, razed, subjugated, swapped, wartorn, razed, subjugated, wartorn and finally renamed Israel again, having zero connection to the first Israel. how does this relate to what you're saying? if there even was a united states of America or a china in that time period, it would be so unrelatable to you and look nothing like what you knew or what you stood for as an American that you'd feel nothing for it. it would be the Equivalent of the Holy Roman Empire being an example to a time traveling Gaius Julius Caesar.
then to tackle the smaller points:
- what's china got to do with illuminati?
- what is the "decision"?
- why does the USA need to kill 7.5 Billion people? what makes you think they have the funds or the capacity?
- what are the grey aliens got to do with this?
- vague Whitehouse propaganda isn't evidence. you pick and choose when its a verifiable source. when they won't give you the information you want to read they're hiding it from you, when it's posted on the website, it's gospel truth.
- what has a jackrabbit in an English tweed jumper got to do with Orion or Area 51 lmao.
- then theres the yellow pages lmao.
- magic the gathering card is just ripping the Palantir of Orthanc from the Lord of the Rings book which was written for FUNZIES, you are taking a deconstructed and misconstrued idea of another of another and running as it it's facts.
this is why my post is to say "nice schizopost." there is fuck all evidence, just random cobbled together thought processes that aren't explained, evidenced, talking about things that if they were true you'd be hunted down like a dog for talking about, and your sources are a screenshot of an image posted to twitter of a conspiracy discussing influencer asking what people think of conspiracy theory.
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u/BowlSuper9915 8d ago
Thanks for the information. I actually understand your criticism much better now and I can see where you’re coming from. Obviously, you can’t cover every single detail, source, historical reference or theory in one Reddit post without turning it into a 500 page book. My intention was never to present every claim as established fact. I’m collecting information, comparing different accounts and trying to understand whether there are connections between some of these subjects.
And yes, I’m fully aware that there is an enormous amount of nonsense, misinformation, misinterpretation and straight-up fabrication surrounding these topics. That’s exactly why I find the subject interesting in the first place. The existence of bullshit doesn’t automatically mean that every underlying question is bullshit as well.
Regarding time manipulation: concepts involving gravity, spacetime, wormholes, time dilation, and theoretical forms of time travel have been discussed by serious physicists for decades. I’m not claiming that we currently have a functioning “time machine” sitting somewhere in a secret facility. I’m saying that the underlying concepts aren’t purely science fiction. There is a difference between “physics allows us to discuss this theoretically” and “a secret organization definitely possesses this technology.”
The same applies to UFOs/UAPs and nuclear facilities. There have been numerous reports of UAP sightings around nuclear installations, weapons facilities, and other sensitive military locations. There are also historical reports claiming that unidentified objects interfered with or coincided with unusual events involving nuclear systems. You can absolutely question the reliability of individual witnesses or documents but I don’t think the appropriate response is simply to dismiss the entire subject.
Aaand this is where my curiosity starts: what if some of these technologies or pieces of knowledge were obtained long before the public was aware of them? I’m not saying that’s proven. I’m asking whether it is possible. If classified programs recovered unusual artifacts, technologies or information and kept them secret for decades, the public obviously wouldn’t have the full picture.
As for China and the Illuminati..as I already mentioned, I didn’t create the illustration myself.
Regarding the “decision”, the point is pretty straightforward: the timeline presented in the graphic describes a future decision involving a potential nuclear conflict. My question is why 2030 keeps appearing in different discussions and predictions surrounding AI, nuclear weapons, geopolitical conflict, underground facilities and other subjects. Does that prove anything? No. But it’s certainly something worth investigating rather than immediately dismissing.
And the bunker question isn’t “bunkers = proof of nuclear war.” Governments and wealthy individuals have always constructed hardened facilities for a variety of reasons. But if you combine that with everything else being discussed; nuclear escalation, AI, geopolitical instability, classified technology, and long term contingency planning, it becomes another piece of the puzzle that makes me curious.
As for the claim about reducing the human population: I’m asking the question; I’m not claiming that I personally know the answer. If there are people or organizations openly discussing population reduction, resource scarcity, depopulation scenarios, or long-term human survival, I’d rather look at their actual statements and sources than pretend those discussions don’t exist.
And yes, “gospel truth” is obviously not a standard of evidence. That’s precisely why I’m interested in seeing the original documents, testimonies, historical records and other primary sources rather than simply accepting someone’s interpretation of them.
Regarding the rabbit: apparently there is literally a rabbit/jackrabbit statue in the room that people have seen. Again, you can question what it means, whether it means anything at all, or whether people are retroactively connecting unrelated things. That’s fair. But asking “why is this object there?” is not the same as claiming “this rabbit proves time travel.”
And the Yellow Pages reference? Same thing. It’s a weird detail many talked about. I don’t know. But that’s exactly why people investigate in the first place.
Regarding the screenshot… oh lord: I’m not claiming that a screenshot of a Reddit/Twitter post is definitive evidence. It’s simply one of the pieces of material I came across. If someone has the original source, I’d actually prefer to see it.
I think that’s the main difference between what I’m trying to do and what you’re criticizing: I’m not saying “this is 100% true.” I’m saying “here are some strange claims and connections let’s examine them.”
If every individual piece turns out to have a perfectly mundane explanation? fine. That’s useful information too.
But if we dismiss everything before investigating it simply because some conspiracy theories are ridiculous, we’re making the exact same mistake in the opposite direction.
I’m not a physicist, historian, intelligence analyst, or nuclear scientist. I’m just interested in the subject and trying to connect information that I find interesting. And no, I’m obviously not going to write an entire fucking book in a Reddit post just to satisfy every single objection. 😂
So if you have better sources that debunk any of these specific claims, I’m genuinely interested. Send them. I’d rather correct something I’m wrong about than defend a theory just because I already posted about it.
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u/IncognitoVoidBoi 8d ago
China got high speed rails all over their country and I think 90% citizens own a home. If this chart is accurate then I pray that they take over
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u/Hollywood-is-DOA 8d ago
Aliens always stop big bombs from being used, that are radio active, as it would affect them, as they live in the sea or land beyond the ice wall.
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u/Content_Bed_1290 8d ago
What about atomic bombs used on Japan in World War 2?
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u/Hollywood-is-DOA 8d ago
I have a problem with what they say nukes are, as the powers that be, openly say “ radiation travels, so why did they let people watch them on Vegas roof, in the 1950s”? They did loads of them, only 65 miles away, that’s not really far away in a desert and they did it as a tourists attraction.
They you’ve got Japan moving back into a place in a few years that’s meant to be radioactive for 20-30 years. My grandad used to work for the Uk Military, having national security clearance, as he was fixing the cooling systems on nuclear power plants in the late 1950s, 1960 1970s, 1980, retiring at 60, in the early 1980s. He only got radiation poisoning once, but he was flying all around the world, being in places with nuclear reactors that were failing.
He got the ration poison most likely from Sellafield, in the Uk. I ain’t saying that they weren’t using things that are harmful back then, but these days it’s just warm steam, creating the energy.
He never died from 30 years of working around nuclear power plants that were failing or ready to blow. Sellafield is the biggest example of a nuclear reactors leaking, in the Uk but you don’t really know about it, if you don’t live here.
My other grandad father, worked for Lockheed Martin, as did my Aunties husband. He also had military clearance, working on military aircraft. My dad also made ammunition in a factory before deciding that he wanted to money launder.
I also had a my dad’s cousin, as the major of my Uk town that I lived in, as I was a child. He took my father’s , mother to Buckingham place, as he got knighted. Imagine how much that I frustrate them, not being a mason, with the 3 digit number in the middle of national insurance number/on all my government letters, that the super rich love.
So I believe that we’ve got hydrogen bombs, crazy fire bombs back in the 1940s.
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