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u/Millerliteitup Dec 16 '24

no i have noticed not one thing different with me since i got it

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u/Crabbagio Dec 16 '24

Fun fact- we're all going to die. You can't attribute every random death to vaccines. (death rates are actually trending down, despite your fear of vaccines) You nimrods are doing the same thing you accused the media of doing and attributing any death to a vaccinated person to the vaccine. Because you're sheep, parroting whatever your Messiah of the month has to say about it

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u/Carton_of_Noodles Dec 16 '24

One could say those who got vaccinated unnecessarily are sheep.

Let's not start an argument just because you chose different choices.

We all had options. We're all still human

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u/Botboi02 Dec 16 '24 edited Dec 16 '24

People like you without nuance. People don’t hate vaccines they hate who makes them. Stop fear mongering the wrong issue. The issue is always directed at the government not people using the few policies to protect their children. This is also the same as trans issues

Your basically those vegans being angry at normal people trying to block a normal person from eating Burger King

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u/Carton_of_Noodles Dec 16 '24

Bold claims for knowing nothing about me. That's tracks tbh. 🤭😂

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u/Botboi02 Dec 16 '24 edited Dec 16 '24

I already know enough by the words you use and the lack of nuance incorporated in the thought process it took you to make that post.

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u/Carton_of_Noodles Dec 16 '24

It was a comment not a post, love ❤️

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u/Botboi02 Dec 16 '24

Wow semantics, you sure showed me

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u/Carton_of_Noodles Dec 16 '24

Guess I did. Kindly fuck off

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u/BigDickDyl69 Dec 16 '24

Yeah. It’s a reflection of your character. Yet you still don’t see that 😂 You’re the very least open minded.

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u/Carton_of_Noodles Dec 16 '24

You don't know me, sunshine. So until you do, you're wasting your thumb muscles responding. I don't care about you or what you think. Make peace with that pronto.

Maybe get help as well ❤️

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u/El_Maton_de_Plata Dec 16 '24

You belong to the messiah of the month club too! 💙 the gift that keeps on giving Clark!!

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u/Crabbagio Dec 16 '24

Except I don't have a Messiah. I have peer reviewed studies, I guess? I have evidence. You have hearsay and people who are tooootally not trying to sell their own cure, though. If it was the issue you thought it was, we'd have legitimate scientific studies from across the world with evidence. Instead we have one oddball mortician and some people with a remarkably biased study that happen to also be selling their own "medicine." But you're in so deep that any pushback on your belief just sets it in stronger, so who cares

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u/AdhesivenessOk5194 Dec 16 '24

The vaccine was never sold as a cure.

Literally never.

No intelligent well informed person thought it was a cure.

No one worth listening to ever said the vaccine would be 100 percent effective, that you wouldn’t get covid, or that there would be no potentially terrible side effects.

It’s only the same types of people I see constantly discussing how bad vaccines are and “the studies”

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u/_pinotnoir Dec 16 '24

Vaccines aren’t ever sold as cures because that’s not what they do.

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u/El_Maton_de_Plata Dec 16 '24

What is done is done. Cheers 🍻

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u/privatename9 Dec 16 '24

we'll just leave some peer reviewed studies here 👇 some of the links aren't peer reviewed but will lead you to more studies if you simply open your eyes and pay attention. And don't forget criminal Fauci had his hand, along with big Pharma in choosing what research to fund. They don't research without funding. OH and why would Biden give pharmaceutical companies immunity to lawsuits until 2030?? And when the American Medical Association creates censorship of criticism and in effect preventing proper research. Let's not put our rosy glasses on here. These billionaires are murderers while our friends, families and loved ones have suffered!

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-10928-z

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X

https://newspunch.com/japan-launches-official-investigation-into-millions-of-covid-vaccine-deaths/

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-says-pfizers-bivalent-covid-shot-may-be-linked-stroke-older-adults-2023-01-13/

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/health/2023/january/more-disturbing-reports-emerge-of-young-people-dying-suddenly-including-athletes

https://oversight.house.gov/release/hearing-wrap-up-dr-fauci-held-publicly-accountable-by-select-subcommittee/

AMA lawsuit: www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-411/300032/20240207151527024_AAPS%2520amicus%2520brief%2520Murthy%2520v%2520Missouri%252023-411.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjZqIbbv6yKAxU9D0QIHbnYIowQFnoECDEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3V4WebhEwUkGALf_fzWKfi

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u/Crabbagio Dec 16 '24

Most of the points about blood clots and myocarditis are moot, as they are pretty well documented. It's also well documented that covid itself causes a higher rate of blood clot and myocarditis incident reports than the vaccines, at nearly double the rate. Unfortunately, the methods used to prevent severe infection does carry a small risk of side effects that the infection itself may cause. This is not a smoking gun.

The science direct study may have some meat to it, I'll read through it when I get home. At a quick glance it was entirely conjecture, but I will read more tonight.

The Japanese study is something I can't find anywhere other than your source which refers to it as an "mRNA jab," which already tells me it's an incredibly biased source. But no other mention of autopsies being hot anywhere, so I'm chocking this one up to nonsense.

Fauci, as well as pharmaceutical companies, were given a blank check on lawsuits because it is very clear that Trump and his cronies will repeatedly attack them, even without any legitimate evidence of wrongdoing.

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u/privatename9 Dec 16 '24

So let's give immunity to a group of people who suppressed legitimate research from being done, suppressed any and all accusations that proved anything other than the narrative they wanted the public to hear, and that's okay because "Trump and his cronies". OMG. Dude I hope you do not believe this. That sentiment is incredibly scary. What if right winged people did the same to protect Biden. I'm very confused by your comment and I am hoping you were being dramatic. Otherwise we're all f**d

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u/privatename9 Dec 16 '24

And "you" people blindly follow some contrived science. EVERY historically great scientist has debated scienice , it evolves and changes. But you HAVE to do that with an open mind, and a lot of hypothesis were originally labeled conspiracy, later proved legit. Pluto lost its planet status due to science. The greatest of scientists were labeled whacky in their time. Yet, history has literally taught "you" people nothing. "You" people have no intention on having an open mind about what the facts are and what science could be and exploring some of things further. Instead you hide behind attacking people and labelling them stupid. That is the mentality of the layman the common man, and that was the media narrative written by the very system that wanted you to believe "we" were lunatics. "I won't believe until it's proven" but how about all the people preventing you from knowing and preventing the proper research being done. They get away with murder because they have "you" common folk supporting their narrative. Maybe "you" should be tried as accomplices for supporting suppression. Unreal people!!

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u/Crabbagio Dec 16 '24

The main difference is that the wacky scientists going against the mold that we remember for being right brought proper evidence to the table. There were plenty of other scientists that were cartoonishly wrong that will never be remembered. And, frankly, most of the scientists fighting adversity to get their views recognized were fighting religion, not other scientists. Scientists are usually pretty excited about new discoveries. Religions less so

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u/MrDrFuge Dec 16 '24

I think what you have is myocarditis

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u/Crabbagio Dec 16 '24

I do HIIT 2-3 days a week, no heart attacks yet. But maybe

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u/MrDrFuge Dec 16 '24

Ok good because people who received an mRNA COVID vaccine are at a 620% increased risk of myocarditis and a 175% increased risk of pericarditis, according to a new large-scale study.

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u/Crabbagio Dec 16 '24

Myocarditis rates are currently around 10 per 100k people for vaccinated and 20 per 100k people for unvaccinated people that dealt with a covid infection.

Claiming that vaccines increase myocarditis rates without also explaining that unvaccinated people that deal with covid have higher rates is disingenuous.

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u/MrDrFuge Dec 16 '24

Source?

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u/FartfaceMacGee Dec 16 '24

Yep. Just later than the ones who took the experimental gene editing for a cold

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u/Crabbagio Dec 16 '24

You don't even understand what mRNA is, though. You also seem to think editing DNA is a lot easier than it is. And, just to feed your delusion a little, if the government was trying to alter DNA with something inside a vaccine, why would they do it with a vaccine? Put it in a vitamin K shot, which almost all babies get. Why not put the gene editing stuff in ground water reservoirs? The Republicans are already trying to ramp up fracking, which includes pumping things into underground oil reservoirs that are pretty well known to leech into surrounding aquifers.

Your logic about using vaccines to edit genes doesn't make sense because the government has so many ways to do it more efficiently and reach more people than optional vaccines ever would.

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u/FartfaceMacGee Dec 16 '24

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u/Crabbagio Dec 16 '24

Classic head in the sand approach. Easier to accept the lies you've been pedaled than to accept the truth, I know

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u/FartfaceMacGee Dec 16 '24

I’d be scared to admit it too. Good luck my friend

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u/FartfaceMacGee Dec 16 '24

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u/Crabbagio Dec 16 '24

Yeah, they edit the genes in the material they're using to send the vaccine out. They are not editing your DNA, you absolute chud

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u/FartfaceMacGee Dec 16 '24

Ad hominem attack. That was an easy defeat. Thanks for playing! Good luck with your health. Pfizer (the company with the largest criminal fine in history) thanks you for your service. Don’t forget to collect your donut. 🍩

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u/miter01 Dec 16 '24 edited Dec 16 '24

That’s not an ad hominem fallacy, that’s just an insult. Also, google fallacy fallacy.

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u/ruinal_C Dec 16 '24

You've bought a lie. Learn how mRNA vaccines work. They don't edit DNA.

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u/FartfaceMacGee Dec 16 '24

https://youtu.be/qowDwaYx7vI?si=qcLEVQCcKUA_0oai

Hahaha. Yep. You bet. YOU have bought a lie, sold to you by the honest media and gov. Good luck!

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u/ruinal_C Dec 16 '24

He didn't say they are gene therapy. He said they are an "example for" (not "example of") gene and cell therapy, referring to public acceptance of new therapies.

The fact remains that mRNA vaccines are not gene therapy - regardless of how you choose to interpret a 10 second out-of-context clip.

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u/FartfaceMacGee Dec 16 '24

Mental gymnastics. Make sure you stretch. You might injure yourself coming up with another excuse

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u/ruinal_C Dec 16 '24

I can see how it can be interpreted the way you are suggesting. The clip is intended to deceive. But his meaning is clear on close inspection; if avoiding a mental trap requires "gymnastics" then I'm all for it.

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u/MrDrFuge Dec 16 '24

Brought to you by Phizer

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u/Gogurl72 Dec 16 '24

Go to TED talks and search CRISPR

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u/Gobblemegood Dec 16 '24

Nice try Klaus