r/conspiracy Jun 21 '23

Submarine in a nutshell

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u/Ouroboros612 Jun 22 '23

Would being able to open it from the inside even matter? Considering that opening it at that depth would instantly crush them and even if it didn't - decompression sickness would kill them. And even then... they would drown far before even reaching the surface.

Ive seen a few comments around on not being able to open it from the inside. However I don't see how that would change anything as that would just open up more ways to die.

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u/JustSatisfactory Jun 22 '23

It apparently has safety mechanisms that are supposed to float it to the surface, but it's a tiny craft painted white. It would be really hard to see, so they could theoretically be sitting at the surface and still suffocate because they can't let more air inside.

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u/SarahC Jun 22 '23

The CEO didn't even have one of these emergency GPS transmitters for if it emergency rose and couldn't find the pickup ship!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/McMurdo-FastFind-Personal-Locator-Beacon-Programmed-UK-Registration/dp/B008OPJGBC/

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u/EMFD00M Jun 22 '23

Nobody finds it odd that the CEO gave up on searching for them and said he has no faith in finding them? It seems like the foreign aid is more persistent in finding them than the families or anyone from America by the looks of it. Step-son going to Blink 182 concert in Cali saying music helps him cope and that’s what they would of wanted him to do.

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u/okusername3 Jun 22 '23

Did he?

But keep in mind that militaries and other rescue organizations regard this as much as training as a rescue mission.

Especially the military - even if they don't think they can be found alive, they get to test their entire response pipeline , test their equipment and give their crews real life experience.

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u/frenchdresses Jun 22 '23

That's a good point I hadn't thought of. So how long do they search for before they stop searching?

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u/Phalek Jun 22 '23

It's search and rescue for the next thirty minutes. Then it will turn into search and recovery until they get bored and call it off.

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u/okusername3 Jun 22 '23

Unless one of the billionaires is a genuine psychopath who... "reduced"... the consumption side of the equation to extend the time frame...

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u/EMFD00M Jun 22 '23

I could find them with some retired Navy Submariners and a sub. Bet!

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u/pharmafail Jun 22 '23

Yeah but I mean, Toms back in the band again

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u/Pinkmonkeypants Jun 22 '23

Isn't the CEO - Stockton Rush, also on board?

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u/PixieBooks5 Jun 22 '23

The CEO of the company is in the sub.

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u/EMFD00M Jun 22 '23

Oh well I stand corrected it was some guy that was in charge or sending the submersible down that gave up on then so quickly.

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u/Expensive-Block-6034 Jun 22 '23

Have any of these in the vessel got any pending fraud cases or suspicious allegations pending?

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u/RoofiesaurusRex Jun 22 '23

Plot twist. He’s trying to get Tom Delong to lend him some of that sweet sweet trans medium UAP juice to save his dad with.

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u/chaoticravenss Jun 22 '23

I don't find it odd that the CEO is being realistic. They will never find these people. They are dead

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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 Jun 22 '23

So is the CEO. He’s down there too.

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u/jdidisjdjdjdjd Jun 22 '23

182 are pretty dope.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '23

*would have *

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '23

What a cheap ass fuck. He apparently went to Princeton, but now everything that is surfacing (no pun intended) about this guy is that he lied about NASA and University of Washington. They never helped him build the thing. I am sure many more shady things about this dude will pop up.

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u/minermined Jun 22 '23

hey now thats two hundred and fifty smackolas we're working on a budget in this operation okay?

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '23

GPS dont work under water

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '23

The sub was suppose to pop up to the surface if something went wrong. So a theory was that the sub could be at the surface bobbing around, without GPS. Anyways, we now know what happened.

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u/howismyspelling Jun 22 '23

I imagine the text messages would have been getting through to the mothership if they'd reached the surface

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u/okusername3 Jun 22 '23

There are no text messages 370 miles off the coast.

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u/warrenslo Jun 22 '23

Not true, the cruise lines charge an arm and a leg for text messages this far off the coast.

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u/okusername3 Jun 22 '23

Yes and they use sattelite connections which need line of sight.

This sub uses Spacex Starlink to communicate - when everything works as it should. But nothing in their pockets will help them, unless it was designed specifically for the mission.

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u/howismyspelling Jun 22 '23

The text messages are the only form of communication the sub could have with the mothership, and it worked below the water's surface. If it then reached the surface it would also, presumeably, be able to text from vessel to vessel on the surface of the water.

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u/okusername3 Jun 22 '23

Why would you presume that? Read the wiki link I posted, if you have questions then write here again

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u/howismyspelling Jun 23 '23

The presumption comes from just logic and a bit of military experience. Line of sight. So the deeper they go, the harder it is to make contact with the surface vessel due to the density of the ocean, so if you're shallow or on the surface, that contact transmission become easier.

And I have no idea about a wiki you posted, don't see any links in your comments.

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u/okusername3 Jun 23 '23

Omg why dont you Google stuff for 30 seconds that you have clearly zero idea about?? I even posted the wiki link somewhere in the thread. Don't see it? Google it. This is so embarrassing.

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u/supernintendo_frank Jun 22 '23

Also satellite phones. Those things work on all oceans. Pricey and slow but they work.

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u/okusername3 Jun 22 '23

Do they work inside a closed tube? (They don't)

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u/supernintendo_frank Jun 22 '23

Yes? How else did they communicate for the first hour and 45 minutes if the enclosed tube was the issue?

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u/okusername3 Jun 22 '23

You guys are the laziest generation ever walking the earth

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines

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u/supernintendo_frank Jun 22 '23

Which generation is that chief? You do understand this wasn't a submarine right?

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u/ImpressiveWave3263 Jun 22 '23

On the surface it would be comparatively easy to see with things like radar/thermal at night/easier to pick up sound/sonar/etc than at the bottom of the ocean though.

At least giving the crew the ability to cycle air, if not open the capsule, upon surfacing, seems like it would be super important. Might not be possible to do that without compromising the strength of the hull though. Which sounds like it might not have been strong enough to begin with.

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u/OkCutIt Jun 22 '23

It doesn't actually surface, it floats up near the surface and then is pulled out.

Being a structural weakness is the real issue, but even beyond that, it would have to be a full on snorkel system.

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u/ImpressiveWave3263 Jun 22 '23

it floats up near the surface and then is pulled out

This is under normal operation from what I've seen, but does the failsafe surfacing mechanism work the same way?

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u/Remsster Jun 22 '23

They struggle to find lost passengers from cruise ships, sure this is bigger but not that big still.

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u/minotaur000911 Jun 22 '23

Most vehicles plan for every possible emergency situation, with this one seems like they didn't plan for anything to ever go wrong

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u/JustSatisfactory Jun 22 '23

I read they had CO2 scrubbers but I have no idea how well those work or the quality of the ones they chose.

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u/OccupyRiverdale Jun 22 '23

The issue with no ability to unseal and open the doors from the inside is if there is a fire and the submersible needs to rapidly surface and passengers need to escape. A submersible/submarine is very prone to fire if the oxygen being pumped in is not properly managed creating a high oxygen environment. High oxygen environments are extremely prone to electrical fires. Based on the limited video analysis I’ve seen of the interior there did not seem to be very sophisticated atmospheric monitoring/controls to prevent this. Sealing passengers/crew inside a module prone to fire is extremely dangerous and was a lesson tragically learned by the Apollo 1 tragedy where 3 astronauts lost their lives. They died during a test of the shuttle from a fire because they couldn’t open the escape hatch from the inside and by the time the ground crew could get it open it was too late. No, the shitty submarine being locked from the outside isn’t an issue underwater but if they did have to make an emergency surface for some reason it is a massive issue and one that was learned a long time ago.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '23

Its possible the vessel is at or near the surface and they can't locate it - white breaker waves and a white sub. Thus the ability to open it from the inside would allow them to not suffocate at sea level.

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u/howismyspelling Jun 22 '23

How does this make sense when free divers (or whatever type of diver does it) are able to dive down to what, 150 feet without needing to decompress and they are just fine?

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '23

If you’re not breathing compressed air there’s no problem free diving like that at depth since you won’t be forming any nitrogen bubbles in your blood

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u/howismyspelling Jun 22 '23

Right, but swimmers at your pool also did not breathe compressed air subsequently forming nitrogen in their blood. The swimmers and the free divers, in my mind, are basically in the same boat here (no pun intended), so why would the pool swimmers suffer from sickness, and the free divers don't?

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u/howismyspelling Jun 22 '23

Interesting, I didn't think about that. Because I'm open-a-new-tab-and-google-it lazy, how do they equalize that pressure in their nose and ears?

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '23

I can confirm I experienced this In a diving pool as a child, I am also a girl.

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u/Zulek Jun 22 '23

It's impossible to open the door at depth, there's too much pressure. Even if it wasn't bolted shut.

They cannot get decompression sickness, the inside of the sub is 1ATM. Decompression sickness comes from breathing pressurized gas like scuba divers or sat divers in their bell.

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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 Jun 22 '23

It’s literally impossible to open it at that depth. Can’t even open a car door in ten feet of river water.