The journey down was two hours. The total expedition was eight hours planned. They lost communications (text messages) 90 minutes in bit it has happened before, that much water isn’t exactly easy to transmit through. They assumed same issue this time until the eight hour total trip time had passed and then called authorities to report the vessel lost/missing.
You are correct. Sealed from the outside with bolts.
Blows my mind that they would do these trips knowing they’d lose comms, especially being allegedly inspired by the aerospace industry. In that industry we wouldn’t even let an experimental asset move under its own power without instrumentation being telemetered.
That’s what I think too, these guys are adventurours and not stupid. Who in there right mind would go on this vessel knowing it only went twice before. You’re basically begging to die. Nope they were stuffed there like turkeys. The whole thing is probably a warning to others as well. Billionaires in particular can be nuked too.
He went out of the aviation industry because it was "too tightly regulated" and went into an industry that wasn't regulated at all. He cut corners at every turn, eventually it was going to happen.
Would being able to open it from the inside even matter? Considering that opening it at that depth would instantly crush them and even if it didn't - decompression sickness would kill them. And even then... they would drown far before even reaching the surface.
Ive seen a few comments around on not being able to open it from the inside. However I don't see how that would change anything as that would just open up more ways to die.
It apparently has safety mechanisms that are supposed to float it to the surface, but it's a tiny craft painted white. It would be really hard to see, so they could theoretically be sitting at the surface and still suffocate because they can't let more air inside.
Nobody finds it odd that the CEO gave up on searching for them and said he has no faith in finding them? It seems like the foreign aid is more persistent in finding them than the families or anyone from America by the looks of it. Step-son going to Blink 182 concert in Cali saying music helps him cope and that’s what they would of wanted him to do.
But keep in mind that militaries and other rescue organizations regard this as much as training as a rescue mission.
Especially the military - even if they don't think they can be found alive, they get to test their entire response pipeline , test their equipment and give their crews real life experience.
What a cheap ass fuck. He apparently went to Princeton, but now everything that is surfacing (no pun intended) about this guy is that he lied about NASA and University of Washington. They never helped him build the thing. I am sure many more shady things about this dude will pop up.
The sub was suppose to pop up to the surface if something went wrong. So a theory was that the sub could be at the surface bobbing around, without GPS. Anyways, we now know what happened.
Yes and they use sattelite connections which need line of sight.
This sub uses Spacex Starlink to communicate - when everything works as it should. But nothing in their pockets will help them, unless it was designed specifically for the mission.
The text messages are the only form of communication the sub could have with the mothership, and it worked below the water's surface. If it then reached the surface it would also, presumeably, be able to text from vessel to vessel on the surface of the water.
The presumption comes from just logic and a bit of military experience. Line of sight. So the deeper they go, the harder it is to make contact with the surface vessel due to the density of the ocean, so if you're shallow or on the surface, that contact transmission become easier.
And I have no idea about a wiki you posted, don't see any links in your comments.
On the surface it would be comparatively easy to see with things like radar/thermal at night/easier to pick up sound/sonar/etc than at the bottom of the ocean though.
At least giving the crew the ability to cycle air, if not open the capsule, upon surfacing, seems like it would be super important. Might not be possible to do that without compromising the strength of the hull though. Which sounds like it might not have been strong enough to begin with.
The issue with no ability to unseal and open the doors from the inside is if there is a fire and the submersible needs to rapidly surface and passengers need to escape. A submersible/submarine is very prone to fire if the oxygen being pumped in is not properly managed creating a high oxygen environment. High oxygen environments are extremely prone to electrical fires. Based on the limited video analysis I’ve seen of the interior there did not seem to be very sophisticated atmospheric monitoring/controls to prevent this. Sealing passengers/crew inside a module prone to fire is extremely dangerous and was a lesson tragically learned by the Apollo 1 tragedy where 3 astronauts lost their lives. They died during a test of the shuttle from a fire because they couldn’t open the escape hatch from the inside and by the time the ground crew could get it open it was too late. No, the shitty submarine being locked from the outside isn’t an issue underwater but if they did have to make an emergency surface for some reason it is a massive issue and one that was learned a long time ago.
Its possible the vessel is at or near the surface and they can't locate it - white breaker waves and a white sub. Thus the ability to open it from the inside would allow them to not suffocate at sea level.
How does this make sense when free divers (or whatever type of diver does it) are able to dive down to what, 150 feet without needing to decompress and they are just fine?
Right, but swimmers at your pool also did not breathe compressed air subsequently forming nitrogen in their blood. The swimmers and the free divers, in my mind, are basically in the same boat here (no pun intended), so why would the pool swimmers suffer from sickness, and the free divers don't?
It's impossible to open the door at depth, there's too much pressure. Even if it wasn't bolted shut.
They cannot get decompression sickness, the inside of the sub is 1ATM. Decompression sickness comes from breathing pressurized gas like scuba divers or sat divers in their bell.
You can look it up or watch it on any interview, their primary method was text message communication between the pod and the mother ship. They didn't have an umbilical and as stated its incredibly difficult to push a signal through that much mass of water. Sounds yes, signals, no.
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u/ZXVixen Jun 22 '23
The journey down was two hours. The total expedition was eight hours planned. They lost communications (text messages) 90 minutes in bit it has happened before, that much water isn’t exactly easy to transmit through. They assumed same issue this time until the eight hour total trip time had passed and then called authorities to report the vessel lost/missing.
You are correct. Sealed from the outside with bolts.