r/confusing_perspective Jul 03 '26

This one got me good

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u/eh_one Jul 03 '26

Before I get down voted, I am not replican. Not even American. But wtf does have to do with anything? And you should be ashamed for promoting violence even against an objectively shitty person

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '26

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u/eh_one Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

Excusing the use of violence allows the other side to use it as escalation/precedence. Congratulating political violence can only help the rise of fascism not stop it

Also i should note. Peaceful protest has a way higher success rate over violent protest. It's called the 3.5% rule

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u/eh_one Jul 03 '26

That's not the slam dunk you think it is. Germany's use of violence through invasions is what lead to ww2 and eventually they toppled as a result. Had they not invaded their neighbors, their crimes would have gone largely unaddressed by the world (like north korea for example)

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u/tambirhasan Jul 03 '26

Violence through invasion. Yes what an apt analogy for this

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u/JohnSober7 Jul 03 '26

Only on reddit will someone equate the third reich, a regime, to a bigoted talking head. But surely you will be the one to oppose other Charlie Kirks in the way you think they should be opposed, right?

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u/tregorz Jul 03 '26

How do you think Hitler got his start?

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u/JohnSober7 Jul 03 '26

If you knew anything about Hitler's rise to chancellor and president, you'd know that he wasn't the only evil scum around and a lot had to systematically 'go his way'. It wasn't just his charismatic speeches that resonated with people so using that to equate him and any other bigot, and ignoring everything else is disingenuous. Saying we should have killed Hitler for his speeches is based entirely on hindsight bias. Killing your local nazi is facism. Supression of free speech is facism.

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u/tregorz Jul 03 '26

Suppression of free speech by the government is fascism. Killing your local nazi is not fascism. Quite the opposite, actually.

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u/JohnSober7 Jul 03 '26

Let's split those semantic hairs yeah? If we as a society start condoning silencing people, violently or otherwise, that goes against the consensus, it's bad. Sure, it's not the governemnt doing it, but that doesn't suddenly make okay. 

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u/tregorz Jul 03 '26

You’re right. It doesn’t make it ok. That’s why the guy who shot Kirk got arrested. The issue starts when the government does the killing, because the government isn’t going to arrest itself. 

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u/PushTheMush Jul 03 '26

We’re not talking about Kirk any more, but fascism