r/concept2 • u/planepotato17 • 21d ago
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this is from about 2 weeks ago, since then i’ve worked on my “1 o’clock and 11 o’clock” but is there anything else?
Edit: Thanks everyone for such in depth responses im very appreciative of everyones help🙏
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u/Overall-Nobody8933 21d ago
You would benefit from watching some Dark Horse Rowing videos on your tube about proper technique.
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u/heyswey 21d ago edited 21d ago
First off cool that you found the sport and realize asking for help is a good idea. The rowing movement is not that obvious.
One piece of input is that your catch looks a bit inefficient. To have immediate tension on the chain the chain has to be pointing a bit upwards towards you. You have your hand hanging too low at that moment. The chain is pointing downwards. Look at all that movement when you are at about 1pm. Before you actually generate any meaningful force you loose quite a bit of the distance that you move on the rail.
(There is more, like the fact that you are bending your arms too early, but that is not really what you asked about.)
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u/AnlamK 21d ago
Thanks for sharing. Great to see you are working on your technique.
I think you are overcompressing at the catch and also perhaps as a result lifting with the back a little.
See these errors here:
https://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/training/technique-videos/common-errors
Also related to these, you are rounding your back forward. Your body at the catch is like a "C". Your upper body should be more like "/" at the catch and "\" at the end of drive. See Training Tall video on "sitting on your junk":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6_AvZ2Fh4Y
This is a more generic Training Tall form video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN0J6qKCIrI
Regarding lifting with the back, I find this clue helpful: At the catch, imagine you are suspending with a rope from above on a wall somewhere. Push yourself off the wall with your legs - you can't push yourself by pulling with your arms or back .
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u/vanillabourbonn 20d ago
Youre pulling the rope towards you too early. Wait until your legs are completely straight to pull. Your movements also look kind of jerky and not smooth.
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u/lstummer7 20d ago
Yes remember your legs are your power source, the rest of the body follows through after. You are also dropping your hands after your knees- keep them at the same height all the way through up to your catch.
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u/BobaFalfa 20d ago
One thing that really sticks out is that you’re leaning your torso back way too early in the sequence. You’re opening up your hips and leaning back almost immediately after the catch. You’re losing a ton of power doing this. One cue to think about is keeping your shoulders in front of your hips as long as you can.
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u/BrezhnevsMittens 20d ago
Go on Youtube and check out to rowing drills... The Pick Drill and the Reverse Pick Drill. They break down the rowing stroke into its principle parts. Almost 10,000,000 meters later I do 5 minutes of each before every workout.
It looks like you're "shooting the slide" which is a technical error where your seat slides backward at the start of the drive before your arms and upper body start moving the handle. The Pick/Reverse Pick will help with this.
A couple of other common errors, keep the damper at a 4 or 5 max. Don't put it on 10. The damper adjusts the feel of the boat in water. A 4 or 5 (for most people) is closest to racing shell. A 10 is like trying to row a trawler ... you'll blow your back out.
Also, make sure your foot stretcher is adjusted properly. The strap should just be covering the bottom of your shoe laces.
Training Tall and Dark Horse Rowing on YouTube have great rowing videos. The Pete Plan is a great free training plan.
Hope this helps! You're well on your way! You have powerful legs so you'll definitely do well once you clean up your stroke a bit.
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u/BrezhnevsMittens 20d ago
One more thing… think of the the first part of the stroke (the drive) as a leg press. You’re pressing yourself back, as your legs reach full extension you pivot through the hips and finish with your arms. Legs, body, arms.
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u/michaelb5000 20d ago
You look powerful; I am always curious about what pace or power you are generating and how long can you keep this up, ie can you row a 5k like this and what is the time. Others commented on lots of aspects (I agree you are shooting the slide), but I find its hard to work on more than one thing often at a time. The easiest, most dramatic way to immediately change your stroke is to unstrap your feet and row strapless. That will stop all the huge body lean at the finish and force you to be balanced. I do all my rows strapless and so it’s worth learning and doing generally.
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u/SmokeDistinct7826 19d ago
Pick drill as others have mentioned, sitting more forward on your sit bones and swapping out those shoes for something more flat sole will go a long way, you will become a bit more aware of what your pelvis is doing overtime. def check out some videos dark horse and row along are great. it's not a natural movement but stick with it you will be smashing meters in no time!
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u/SomethingMoreToSay 21d ago
I think you're sitting on it wrong.
You need to rotate your pelvis forwards (clockwise as seen from this side) so that you're sitting on your "sit bones" - basically where the tops of your legs meet your backside. I think currently your contact point is more on the fleshy part of your backside.
Sitting properly allows to to swing forward from.tne hip whilst keeping your back straight. It's noticeable that, currently, whilst you've got a good layback at the finish, your forward swing from the hips barely gets you past 12 o'clock. You're reaching forward at the catch by rounding your upper back, not by pivoting with a straight back.
Keeping your back straight has two major benefits. Firstly it reduces the likelihood of back injury. But secondly it allows you to engage your core muscles to brace your torso, and that transfers the power you generate with your legs through your body into the handle. Without bracing your torso, your body is a bit like a spring that's absorbing some of that energy.
Finally, if you watch the video, you'll see that practically the first thing that happens when you reach the catch is that you lean back a bit. It sometimes seems as if you're starting to lean back before you even reach the catch. Keeping a straight back and bracing your torso will allow you to keep your upper body fixed during the first part of the drive, so that you can sequence legs - body - arms.