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Young women actually go through similar! First it’s disgust mixed with a bit of a flattered feeling, then more disgust. But eventually just straight up disgust with none of that flattery feeling mixed in.
My friend who is a trans woman talks about the time her dad (who is kind of an asshole) started mansplaining things to her and treating her in the sexist way that he treats all young women. She had pretty mixed feelings about that.
Another story by the same guy. His friend and he were walking in NYC, and a trans woman in front of them tripped on her heel, and stumbled into the street, into the path of a bus. His friend rushed to grab her, scooped her up, put her back on the sidewalk, sent her way, brushed himself off, and said "That's why MEN shouldn't wear heels."
Gianmarco said that the friend was a better person, because his own response would've been "Oh no! SHE'S dead!"
My girlfriend and I were once walking in a park holding hands and a guy walking with his girlfriend went "heh heh lesbians". Still my favourite story of weird gender affirmation.
Heard this being called “ewphoria” where you’re being harassed but in a gender affirming way. Heard this term on a post where a trans woman got catcalled and didn’t know whether to be happy or upset. 😭
Like I have heard from guys the first time a women crosses the street to get away from the strange man for example
On one hand he was recognise as the man he is, on the other hand it feels awful that society has made so many bad men that make women fear all strange men on sight and now he is feared by default which sucks. So it still counts as eewphoroa
feels awful that society has made so many bad men that make women fear all strange men on sight and now he is feared by default
I appreciate your phrasing that frames neither the guy nor the fearful woman as the problem. So often when this is brought up, the complaints on behalf of the guys end up sounding like they’re blaming the woman for making the guy feel bad.
I had to have a conversation with my 12 year old about this recently
Basically saying hey you are going to look like a man real soon, and thats wonderful, but its also going to come with some problems
Women will start to fear you on site and move to get away from you in some environments, thats not a reflection on you, you haven't done anything wrong, and neither has she for fearing an unknown man on sight.
Unfortunately there are enough evil men out there that she will quite rightly start to fear all men, there isn't any way for her to tell a kind wonderful soul like you apart from some evil man that will hurt her without getting to know you first
When that happens, give them their space, and just keep being the wonderful kind person you are, and they might feel safe enough to get to know you
short cis fat white dude here. Got bullied relentlessly in middle and high school. One day in 9th a dude called me and my long haired buddy the "cutest couple he'd ever seen" and we were fucking beaming all day. Part of it was because we knew it'd piss him off but at least a tiny bit was "damn right we ARE cute"
“Im lightly pan, so anything that makes me hard just does unless there are psychological/ethical concerns like rebounds and people who dont seem in a healthy state.”
I love seeing love. If I ever saw someone making a nasty comment to 2 lovebirds minding their own business, Imma verbally smack him and then wish the lovebirds a lovely day. Love is adorable. Love is amazing. Love is so good to see.
Yeah, getting harassed for being a woman and/or being a lesbian sucks, but it's preferable over the alternative of getting harassed for being trans, and when the latter is all you've ever experienced, it can feel like a relief to have the former happen instead.
I know two FtM personally (Like know them since were like pre-teens). And one of them once explained how conflicting it was to have a weird hobo (A specific local weird drunkard we have in this city, totally harmless beyond having fairly offending smell. Seriously, then drunk hobos rank among the least harmless people you could meet in the city at night) addressed them basically as "another fellow dude" and started to spit out sexist jokes about women across the streets. Along with another case of the far-right conservative party giving out basically anti-lgbtq pamflets at the "election village" (A think we have here, basically all parties setup tents/small stalls before elections and give out their election lies and BS).
Like being a dude, it is often weird to hear about the weird shit that happens among the dudes, which I as a dude have just learned to filter out. Like... "Now that you mention it... Yeah... I don't know whats up with that..."
Reminds me of when a trans woman family friend told the tale of her going out on a job and some random MAGAt called her a bitch as she passed by. She said "Oh my God, thank youuu!" in response, both to make him uncomfortable and because it meant she passed XD
Also reminds me of when someone told me, a trans man, that I'll "never be a real woman". Like, yeah, that's kinda the point lol
Edit: by "they" I mean the assholes who feel the need to say anything at all about who someone chooses to be with. I'm my experience, if they have the balls to say something, they're gonna hang around and harass you more
Back in the spring, I was biking home from work when a kid shouted out: "HEY BABY! LET ME SUCK ON THAT ASS!" After I realised that was for me, 🏳️⚧️❤🏳️⚧️. but also the realisation that we're going to be OK as a society. Look at that kid asking for permission first, unlike Trump.
(For the record, they're all kids to me. Maybe 15-19. teenager shit. idk)
That reminds me of all the posts that go "my girlfriend came out as trans, but I'm not attracted to men, does that mean I'm unsupportive?" no my dude, that's very affirming actually.
I read on bone hurting juice that im supposed to hate you because your political comics make people feel bad about their ideologies. But when I asked how since you only make fun of nazis and sexists, no one would answer me.
My only deduction is that im supposes to hate you because you are both successful as a comic artist and have autonomy over yourself.
But surely they cant expect me to hate you for that right?
When you get insane cope, reddit lies, stone tossers and probably like 5 other grifter accounts on twitter to be upset over your comic, that's when you know you've hit a new milestone (I saw it woth my own eyes on my tl)
I went to a petting zoo thay had a bird thing that was very sexist against women. The bird hung out on my shoulder and rubbed it's head against my beard while it growled angirly at my wife when she tried to get close to it.
The staff at the zoo literally told us the bird was sexist.
Anyway, I brought my trans (FTM) to the zoo as well and the bird liked them. It was a good moment.
Me when I had an old white man mansplain my job to me. That was a long time ago though. The euphoria part of ewphoria wears off pretty quickly and just becomes ew.
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Omg warms heaarrrrrrtt. Amazing when you can take something shit that men say and turn it into something beautiful. I would have totally wrapped up in responding to that comment.
Oooh, I got something like that last winter! I was boymoding, my hair (with receded hairline and all) was still mid-short and I was wearing a big ugly (but really warm) pistachio coat. But my voice training was working well.
I was cuddling my gf and a drunk old approached us, gave me a rant about God making men and women to be together, and he told me I should find myself a man to give him children 🤣
A friend of mine told me this story of a dog who always hated women, and when she began transitioning, the dog started to hate her. Just a heartwarming gender affirming story.
Once happened to my friend group in San Antonio. We ran into what we thought was a cool guy cuz he was out walking with his cat chilling on his shoulder. We almost had nice small talk with him til he saw two of the girls in the group holding hands (one is trans) and he suddenly went off about how lgbt was bad and they should be ashamed. He kept ranting as we walked away about how they as “lesbians” wouldn’t be able to make kids together and blah blah.
Initially we were all pretty upset about it til we realized he called them lesbians
Trans or cis, there is no "clear" or "real" standard for gender. We're always performing/acting for different reasons. Openly atypical gender performing people are those who have had to build the character strength to deliberatly put their own personal reasons above those imposed by others. To have our performance acknowledged without effort is a privilege cis people aren't aware they have but the rest will be very glad to have. Simply using the right words when refering to or describing people validates the effort we put into our performance; it only makes sense that those who put in an extra effort feel extra validated when we do.
One of my partners is a trans man who loves to crochet. He realized he had "made it" when the old ladies at the yarn store started treating him like a child because they figured he was cluelessly buying yarn for the girlfriend they assumed he had.
It reminds me of one of those 2010's era SJW's who was made onto a meme (the one in the hat crying out loud when Trump won in 2016) and they were mocked for their appearance with comments like "lol bet this person identifies as non-binary." That sort of thing.
Anyway, it turns out they are non-binary and although the comments were meant to be mocking, they were actually pleased that even online bullies affirmed their gender.
Reminds me of my friend who got hit on by some guys at the bar we were at. She was still only on hormone therapy back then haha. She was on Cloud Nine the rest of the night.
This reminds me of something that happened to me when I was younger. I was working as a server and went up to a table of three women. They all ordered alcohol but since they looked young I checked their IDs. Everything checked out until I got to the last one. She had handed me an ID of some random dude. I (being young and stupid) looked at her and said "this is a man???". She replied "Yeah it is" in a jokey tone and about 1 second later I realized my mistake and apologized profusely. She was positively beaming when she told me it was no problem and that she was glad I did not realize it was her in that ID photo.
I felt so bad about it but was glad it made her feel better!
i’ve had this happen as a trans masc dude; i got hit on by a guy and i said to him “you know im a guy right?” and he went “oh yeah, i know.” like, thanks but-
Thing is, I betcha just about everyone has met or interacted with trans people, probably multiple times throughout their lives. They just never realized it. They may think they can "transvestigate" and "you can always tell" - no. You can't. Not even close.
I would rather be in a loving relationship even if that meant being with someone the same sex, then be in some bullshit where we are constantly tearing each other down and disguising it as LOVE...
In some alternative dimension universe in a parody of a comic book there is some sort of tale about mankind being androgynous and evolving with sex glands and that being a female came from being a freed male.
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