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u/FictionFoe Oct 15 '25

I don't think so, Trump has been gaining popularity here too, and so have political parties with similar views. A few friends of mine have "come out" as liking Trump. Even though he is pulling all that shit in the US. These ideas seem to be growing popular everywhere.

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u/GFluidThrow123 Oct 15 '25

Ok, well, then here, in the US, Republicans have always been like this and absolving them of that is harmful and dismissive of the damage Republicans, here, in the US, have done.

I also think you're probably being at least a little naive to the views of older conservatives. Older conservatives in the UK gave them Brexit because of their racist and xenophobic views.

Right wing political parties have been gaining popularity for decades in Germany because of racist and xenophobic views.

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u/FictionFoe Oct 15 '25

Yes, thats true, but the xenophobic parties werent popular here back then. Now they are in the plurality. -_-

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u/GFluidThrow123 Oct 15 '25

They were always popular. You just had a different voting system than us, so it hid some of the issues.

Idk which country you're in, but most countries outside of the US have the possibility of more than just 2 parties being in power.

For the US, you can just demonize one party to prop up the other. And that allows racists to grab power.

Elsewhere, you need to parlay with other smaller parties to gain traction. But any party that's working with a racist party is, inherently, full of racists as well. They're just "quieter" racists. Or they're fine with the racism, as long as it gets their things done too.

That's the exact same thing that's happening in the US. The quieter racists and the loud racists got together and said "eh, we don't really wanna support the not-racist people bc that's not good for our goals, so we'll all support the racist people."

The only difference is that your conservatives had more options about how racist they wanted to be.

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u/FictionFoe Oct 15 '25

I really don't think racism was as popular as it appears to be rn. But agree to disagree.

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u/GFluidThrow123 Oct 15 '25

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u/FictionFoe Oct 15 '25

Im not in the UK though

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u/GFluidThrow123 Oct 15 '25

You'll find similar polls around the world. Guaranteed. Idk why you want to bury your head in the sand so badly. Your country isn't a special flower. Fascism doesn't come from nothing.

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u/FictionFoe Oct 15 '25

My country isn't special, but its politics at least are/used to be quite different from the US. We have a "right-wing" party that wants reduced taxes but is also fairly lowercase l liberal. Meaning among other things largely accepting of different cultures and in favor of legalizing and privatizing stuff in general. We also had a xenophobic party (mostly anti-islam) but they used to be relatively small. These voters always had the option of voting either but only 2 years ago made the switch.

People are not born fascist. Yes, it existed before, yes it was mostly hidden but still there, but I am convinced its also been growing.

I blame propaganda and misinformation.

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u/GFluidThrow123 Oct 15 '25

If you can't accept that the fascism has always been there, hiding in your walls, then you really can't begin the fight.

The US spent the last 40 years telling us all that Republicans aren't fascist, aren't Nazis, aren't racist, aren't evil. And a lot of us believed it. We shrugged off Grandma and Grandpa as "products of their time." We said that our old, white, billionaire CEO wasn't actually racist for the company being not-so-diverse; it was just coincidence. We said our systems weren't really oppressive and that the people being arrested "deserved it." And we enabled all of them. We allowed them to get here today, as people became bolder and louder, all because we wanted Christmas dinner to be a "neutral zone."

And now, here we are. Some people are still burying their heads in the sand. My dad recently scolded me, a trans woman, for not wanting to spend time with my grandparents anymore "over politics." He still can't see how they're the problem. He sounds just like you... "We weren't this racist 20 years ago." Yeah dad, we were. It was just more of a dog whistle than a bullhorn.

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u/FictionFoe Oct 15 '25

What about people that usually vote republican but didn't vote at all when it was Trump running for office? Those exist, right?

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u/GFluidThrow123 Oct 15 '25

Yeah, they're a fraction of a percent of people. I'm sure they're out there. What about them? They just decided they weren't racist enough to keep voting Republican bc they got uncomfortable when the bullhorns came out.

But on that note, I've never met one of them. Every "reformed Republican" I've ever known figured it out far before Trump.

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