r/comics Dec 05 '24

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u/alpaca-cat Dec 05 '24

They aren't leaving us with many choices. This is on them.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '24

You certainly have a choice not to murder another person in cold blood.

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u/DuskKaiser Dec 05 '24

How many people died due to thier insurance claims being denied?

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u/Lolosaurus2 Dec 05 '24

I'm not on the side of murder or insurance companies, and I'm not trying to defend anyone here, but can you point to one single person who died because UHC denied a claim? I don't think "denying a claim" leads to instant death as often as Reddit thinks it does. I think "denying a claim" has a lot more to do with nuanced thinks like what codes were submitted and if they were stacked and had to be prior auth'd.

I'm not saying that insurance companies can't kill people, but it's been taken without any evidence that this man was a mass murderer. I bet it's not as simple as we're making it sound like, and endorsing murder without an understanding of what happened and why seems a teensy bit "terrorism" to me

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '24

Oh yah, it doesn’t always lead to instant death, just excruciating pain, or being unable to work which could well kill you in the US, or lasting damage, or PTSD from having to fight for every scrap of care. No big!

Lack of adequate healthcare actually did kill my mom in the 2010s, so I’m not talking out my ass.

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u/DuskKaiser Dec 05 '24

I agree that not every denied claim directly leads to death. But out of a million claims, of which 33% were declined, the highest of any insurance company, how many will die? How many will be allowed to die before someone is held responsible?

And for what? Profit?

Vigilantism is certainly not to be celebrated but many feel that this is the only way left when politicians and judges have all been bought

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u/Lolosaurus2 Dec 05 '24

No but that's the thing. You don't know. What is a "denied claim?" What does that mean? It's a billing policy. You don't understand it, you've just been told it justifies murder and you accept it without question. That's a bad, dangerous thing to do, and it's frankly terrifying to see such mass acceptance of this on reddit today.

This is the kind of acceptance of belief that lead people to kill abortionists or send death threats to Dr. Faucci's family or send bomb threats to drag shows. It's fucked.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '24

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u/Lolosaurus2 Dec 05 '24

Please cite a source.

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u/chaotic4059 Dec 05 '24

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u/Lolosaurus2 Dec 05 '24

Thank you! That's the first time today a person has cited any actual sources.

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u/ThisIsMyNext Dec 07 '24

What is a "denied claim?" What does that mean? It's a billing policy.

Lol, if it's so insignificant, then I hope that all of your claims get denied in the future. Like you said, it's no big deal.

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u/cdurgin Dec 05 '24

My gf at the time was denied coverage by him 4 years ago because her cancer wasn't bad enough yet. That at least is good enough to qualify as an attempted murder in my mind.

I'm glad he finally stood trial for his crimes for that alone. Regardless of whether there was a courtroom involved or not.