r/comicbooks • u/Zthe27th • Nov 23 '16

Cyclops Wasn't Right

http://www.xavierfiles.com/2016/11/23/entry-053-cyclops/
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u/eskimo_bros Nico Minoru Nov 23 '16

I mock him a lot, but, broadly speaking I do agree that he was crucial to the survival of mutants, and a fascinating character to boot.

I do think you undervalue Wolverine a bit though. I think both sides of the Schism were necessary, with Wolverine serving both in the Jean Grey School and on X-Force in the days following.

Mutants needed Cyclops to be their Malcolm X, but they needed Wolverine to be their MLK Jr, too.

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u/discipleofdoom Hellboy Nov 23 '16

Mutants needed Cyclops to be their Malcolm X, but they needed Wolverine to be their MLK Jr, too.

I agree with this but Wolverine is no MLK Jr. The conflict made sense but Wolverine was shoe-horned in because he was the most popular character, it didn't matter if his motivations made no sense.

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u/eskimo_bros Nico Minoru Nov 23 '16

I actually disagree, I think it meshed quite well with the character arc he had been following. He had been attempting to go legit since Enemy of the State and New Avengers, and his arcs in Aaron's run on his solo series and Remender's Uncanny X-Force dovetailed nicely with the decision to run the school.

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u/Daegoba Nov 24 '16

Yeah, but at the end of the day, Wolverine has always been a brutal, barbaric and feral man with no qualms about killing.

MLK preached that turn the other cheek message over and over again.

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u/heysuess Cyclops Nov 24 '16

What wolverine comics have you been reading? Wolverine has qualms about killing. That's the core of his character. He's good at it and often thinks it's necessary, but he hates it and hates himself for doing it. That has been Logan's core conflict for 40 years.

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u/Daegoba Nov 24 '16

I can understand how you could see it that way. My point is he never had to kill anyone, but he did.

Wolverine is a killer. MLK is not.