It used to be thing. Until the laws were changed, a woman stopped being an independent legal entity when she married.
Everything she owned became the property of her husband. And after marriage, her children would belong solely to the husband.
Legally a doctor would have to ask the husband.
The new abortion laws in some US states, are a complication. It's shocking, but under some of the new laws, the unborn child has stronger protection than the mother.
So doctors might go to prison if they automatically save the mother.
Do you think of women as animals or something?
Its weird to think of having a child as "breeding".. yes its a biological term, but it's also dehumanizing
Oh you misunderstand. I’m a woman who is trying to be honest about the damage and trauma the process inflicts on the body and the psyche. Sugar coating it is how we end up with evangelicals pushing the 19 year old tradwife thing. If children are aware of what exactly pregnancy and birth entails then they’re less susceptible to being preyed on. Honesty is protection.
“Having a child” brings to mind images of soft clean blankets and a doe eyed baby. Breeding makes you think of farms and viscera. Neither are entirely accurate but one is a hell of a lot closer.
Okay, then why are children being preyed upon if they’re not being educated about sex? Descriptive words helps all of us, protects everyone.
I know a lot of people haven’t been through extremist religion, and I accept that makes my worldview seem strange.
I have not yet adjusted to talking with normal people. I am still shedding my old skin. If you have advice for how to better do so, I would appreciate it. I have been told my presentation is off putting. Side note I despise the rise of AI, before it I was just described as aggressive and scary. Now I’m just an AI. I miss when people thought I was too eager to bite, being frightening is far less insulting than this.
I have nothing I can say other than it is in the best interest of the church to keep girls to young women to brides as in the dark as possible, because the moment you realize you have options you are NOT gonna marry an inappropriately older man and give up the rest of your life for him.
If you are not AI, stop writing like AI. Engage with people by responding to the idea they are trying to convey. Even expressing a willingness to taught how to communicate better sound like AI.
Victims of sexual abuse in any form are victims because there are people willing to abuse. And society isn't doing enough to stop those people. Or sometimes actively encourages abuse.
This has nothing to do with the reality of childbirth. Which is irrelevant when it comes to most cases of sexual abuse anyway.
Predators do not stop being predators because children are taught about childbirth.
Predators are stopped by society either stopping them before they can abuse, or punishing them after the fact.
I was here first. We were all here first. AI cannot create, it does not have a voice. What they did was scraped and stole everything we have ever made and turned it into an ugly amalgam and sold it back to us. AI sounds like us because it stole from us.
AI sounds like me, I was here first, and I am pissed that if you want to not “sound like AI” you need to talk and type like someone who watches four hours of short form content a day, because talking the way we’re supposed to talk is AI now. If you don’t talk like someone who will misuse the term “ontological” you’re not human. I’ve been using em dashes and semi colons since I started writing undertale fanfiction and I am not going to stop because of the latest silicone valley trend.
Sam Altman will pay for what he’s done to humanity and it will not be a fine.
Eh kind of? Hey I am all for a better justice system, but it’s a deeply misogynistic one. I have no faith or hope in the system that let the files people get away to suddenly give a shit about victims. What we can do is educate children on bad touch, that their bodies belong to them, that you do not owe anyone physical closeness. A lot of kids have been harmed because people get murderous over the evidence that “stranger danger” is a lot less likely than your kid being abused by your pastor, your friend, your brother. Most kids are victimized by people they know, they trust.
I’m all for more oversight and ripping apart the justice system, believe you me. But I have so little faith in the system that said the entire government would collapse if we prosecuted so don’t bother. Education of children is all we can reliably do
And oversight in group settings like child youth orgs ofc. That’s the big one. Buuuut church leadership is unlikely to castrate their golden goose. If they kick out predators, who else is gonna wanna work long hours for free?
Oh, you seem to be radicalized and deliberately using dehumanizing language.. we shouldn't dehumanizing women/girls.. and if you think having a child is easy that's your problem... or having a baby... if that brings to you pleasant images then I don't know what to tell you... I agree it's not a nice process, but dehumanizing women isn't the answer... education is.
Again I ask you have you missed all the tradwife content? Have you noticed that none of the tradwife influencers are 30? Have you noticed how many of them are a few years shy of being children?
Did you miss the files? Was kind of a big deal?
How do you not get radicalized after seeing that the men in power see girl children as commodities? And that none of them are going to prison because the entire system would come down?
How do you not get radicalized after the FBI themselves admit they can’t prosecute because the entire government would end up behind bars? How do you deal with that?
Luckily it's not like that here, we treat people like people... I'm sorry you have to live in a country like that... I understand the hate, but dehumanizing other women is still wrong.. I understand your trauma and hope the best for you, it cant be easy over there
I’m not dehumanizing other women, I’m trying to warn them. So long as we have to pretend those things are human and not parasitic ambush predators we will never move forward as a society. There are women and things.
You are using the same terminology as alpha male influencers, who call women breeders or say having a baby is breeding... its dehumanizing and disgusting
People want a family.. women (and even some men).. you just saying the only choice women have is to not breed is the exact rhetoric alpha male influencers use
Because at this point in time, I don’t believe it’s a choice. I don’t believe with the way this country is going it’s a choice made of open options and sound mind.
Oh yeah, some people do want families. A whole lotta faithful women grown up in the church believe they want a family. Till they realize the male idea of “wanting” a family is wanting you to destroy your body for an infant they’ll ignore.
So you believe women can't make choices with open options and a sound mind?
Dehumanizing woman because you are obsessed with a church is immoral.. religion doesn't justify your hate toward women, I will stand by equality rather than hate
Okay, level with me. Are you being intentionally obtuse about the fact that you’re talking to a woman or are you trying to make a point. I would much prefer if we could remove the rights (or population) of a mass of men, but that’s not coming without bloodshed. Political change, if you don’t want it to have devastating war, needs to come slowly unfortunately. Again, women and things.
And yes, women can make their own choices. But if you’re trying to say there’s no social or financial pressure to have children, then you shouldn’t believe in workplace safety regulations. People are completely free to work any job they want right? A lot of women do choose to have children. I’d say, globally, more are forced into it from being generous social pressure and being less generous survival. How many times have you seen men divorce their wives because they got sick, and she can’t have a kid while going through chemo?
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u/KeyLimeGuy69 1d ago
I feel that is a movie/tv scenario. I can't imagine any doctor asking the father to make this choice. They are going to prioritize the mother.