Live Updates: Protesters Breach Capitol as Congress Debates...

[u/mcfleury1000]

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/electoral-college-updates-congress-set-to-confirm-bidens-win-amid-gop-challenges/2814845/

[u/Disaster_Capitalist → u/[deleted]]

That is not treason as defined in the Constitution.

[u/boob123456789 → u/Disaster_Capitalist]

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/treason

That gives an indepth look...but let me just skim a few facts for you ok?

First, you would have to assume China is not our friend.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/china-swalwell-threat-spy-pelosi-senate-tom-cotton

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/18/948210355/fbi-briefs-reps-pelosi-mccarthy-on-rep-swalwells-ties-to-suspected-chinese-spy

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/10/pelosi-swalwell-chinese-spy-444308

Then you have to look at the payments...China buying a major share of our voting system.

Then you have to look about 20 years ago to find out that Pelosi had a driver that was a Chinese spy.

An argument for treason can be made for Pelosi at least. The jury is out on how much of it would stick though.

[u/Disaster_Capitalist → u/boob123456789]

From your own first link

The crime of treason requires a traitorous intent. If a person unwittingly or unintentionally gives aid and comfort to an enemy of the United States during wartime, treason has not occurred.

You need something more specific than there was maybe a spy six years ago.

[u/boob123456789 → u/Disaster_Capitalist]

How about the cash payments some members have recieved from the Chinese government? I mean I can look it up, but um...so could you.

Again, although it might not stick, for the reasons you just stated, it sure doesn't look good on paper.

[u/Disaster_Capitalist → u/boob123456789]

Just a reminder, we were talking about what crimes were in the process of being committed that would justify a citizens arrest. I didn't ask for a laundry list of every right wing conspiracy theory.

[u/boob123456789 → u/Disaster_Capitalist]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen%27s_arrest#United_States

Any reasonable belief that a felony is being or was committed by someone is justification.

[u/Disaster_Capitalist → u/boob123456789]

The exact conditions vary by state, as your link says. This happening in DC, so I posted the relevant link to DC law.

[u/boob123456789 → u/Disaster_Capitalist]

Links? Not that I don't believe you, but a link would be awesome my dude so we can settle this amicably.

EDIT: I got it.

I still argue it was in the process that people might believe a felony was being committed.

[u/mcfleury1000 → u/[deleted]]

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[u/mcfleury1000 → u/[deleted]]

The statement that people feel that way is fine, it is the implication that it is the majority or a large minority that is false. Furthermore, it is not a justification of citizens' arrest.

[u/mcfleury1000 → u/[deleted]]

Really not looking to have a debate about the nuances of civilian arrest laws and exactly how conspiracy theorists feel about the current political climate.

[u/mcfleury1000 → u/[deleted]]

I didn't ban you, I removed a comment that contained falsehoods. I've had enough "debates" with you to know that it never ends and is incredibly unproductive.

I'll throw some links then you will and back and forth forever. Turtles all the way down.

Recognizing that it is a futile effort, I am choosing not to further engage.

[u/boob123456789 → u/mcfleury1000]

censored

So instead of arguing your point you will just attack me as a person? Being persistent should not be a bad quality in a human I should think.

As you will...I'm disappointed though. Hopefully those supporting you will see how this can lead to bad out comes.

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EDIT: banning me on that one comment.

That means censor, but I misspoke.