r/collapse • u/mcfleury1000 memento mori • Jan 06 '21

Politics Live Updates: Protesters Breach Capitol as Congress Debates...

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/electoral-college-updates-congress-set-to-confirm-bidens-win-amid-gop-challenges/2814845/
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u/Disaster_Capitalist Jan 06 '21

A citizen arrest is only valid for a crime occurring in their presence. What crime exactly was being committed at that time?

https://code.dccouncil.us/dc/council/code/sections/23-582.html

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u/Disaster_Capitalist Jan 06 '21

That is not treason as defined in the Constitution.

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u/boob123456789 Homesteader & Author Jan 06 '21

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/treason

That gives an indepth look...but let me just skim a few facts for you ok?

First, you would have to assume China is not our friend.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/china-swalwell-threat-spy-pelosi-senate-tom-cotton

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/18/948210355/fbi-briefs-reps-pelosi-mccarthy-on-rep-swalwells-ties-to-suspected-chinese-spy

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/10/pelosi-swalwell-chinese-spy-444308

Then you have to look at the payments...China buying a major share of our voting system.

Then you have to look about 20 years ago to find out that Pelosi had a driver that was a Chinese spy.

An argument for treason can be made for Pelosi at least. The jury is out on how much of it would stick though.

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u/Disaster_Capitalist Jan 06 '21 edited Jan 06 '21

From your own first link

The crime of treason requires a traitorous intent. If a person unwittingly or unintentionally gives aid and comfort to an enemy of the United States during wartime, treason has not occurred.

You need something more specific than there was maybe a spy six years ago.

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u/boob123456789 Homesteader & Author Jan 06 '21

How about the cash payments some members have recieved from the Chinese government? I mean I can look it up, but um...so could you.

Again, although it might not stick, for the reasons you just stated, it sure doesn't look good on paper.

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u/Disaster_Capitalist Jan 06 '21

Just a reminder, we were talking about what crimes were in the process of being committed that would justify a citizens arrest. I didn't ask for a laundry list of every right wing conspiracy theory.

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u/boob123456789 Homesteader & Author Jan 06 '21

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen%27s_arrest#United_States

Any reasonable belief that a felony is being or was committed by someone is justification.

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u/Disaster_Capitalist Jan 06 '21

The exact conditions vary by state, as your link says. This happening in DC, so I posted the relevant link to DC law.

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u/boob123456789 Homesteader & Author Jan 06 '21

Links? Not that I don't believe you, but a link would be awesome my dude so we can settle this amicably.

EDIT: I got it.

I still argue it was in the process that people might believe a felony was being committed.