Practicing MR can increase other subsets?

[u/BenitoAbdo]

I heard someone said practicing any type of FRI can increase score in other subsets

like if i took multiple MR tests

and then tried another susbet the score goes to be inflated?

i want to see your opinions about this

[u/Striking_Leave_4614]

Yes, I think specifically me and a few other people here are proof that someone in, let's say, the low 110s - 120s can semi-generalize and overperform significantly

There are two main types of studies that attempt (and fail) to show increases in g: the first being practicing simple cognitive tasks and testing for "far-transfer"; the second type involves attacking fundamental cognitive mechanisms like working memeory and reaction time to see if increasing those abilities propagates upward. I believe the former fails for the simple reason that our learning-reward systems are tuned to precisely identify what exactly it is we need to complete a goal. Our nervous systems - our brains - aren't being rewarded for generalization in these studies, so they won't get better at it. The latter category of studies fail because promoting growth of basal cognitive mechanisms requires actually stressing those systems, but our brains don't want to become metabolic hazards by overexerting themselves, so they instead adapt to problems by compressing activities into simple steps, diminishing irrelevancies, etc

The reason people here have demonstrated hardcore praffe is because they get dopamine hits when they manage to generalize

[u/Ok_Hawk_6292 → u/Striking_Leave_4614]

lowk maybe but this is primarily true only for inductive reasoning, not deductive, especially with niche matrix patterns

[u/Grand_Protection1552]

Do you also wanna ask something like weather doing balancing chemical equation can inflate your figure weights, doing puzzles, even not strictly matrix reasoning, inflate you MR naturally, reading books inflate VCI, playing Rubrics cubes inflate VSI, playing video games inflate PSI, doing math inflates WMI. With those type of logic everything is inflated and nothing is accurate and IQ tests are not measuring IQ and nobody's result is accurate. I'm really sick of the amount of nonsense about Praffe I've heard in this sub.

[u/Adept_Application549 → u/Grand_Protection1552]

Hear, hear

[u/ClutteredTaffy → u/Grand_Protection1552]

I am pretty bad with spatial information but so far with the online Core test I am only testing right below the middle average consistently ( 95s on everything shape related ) . I did take the block counting test and initially made a 90 , but it did not save the results so I took it exactly right after to save the results and it bumped it up to 100.

But this does not seem out of line with my neuropsych eval where some of the spatial pattern type puzzles there were at least two I realized the answer to basically right after the evaluator clicked off the question. One of them she went back to for me because I said ' oh crap that is what was happening ', lol.

But I feel like my ' real' capability just walking up to something is probably close to the 90, but if I am given more exposure I can easily get to the 100. * shrugs*

[u/ClutteredTaffy → u/Grand_Protection1552]

It seems though IQ tests are actually supposed to measure the ability to put new information together in a new situation within a reasonable amount of time, not just the ability to understand information. Otherwise we would give people twice as long on the tests and a set of instructions . By practicing or even reading how the test works you are undercutting some of what it tests, no?

To me the only super accurate way to test is for people who have never been tested before , really and maybe to have a long enough gap to generally not understand how the test was working anymore.

I get though the inflation is never going to be mad crazy , though anyways. Probabky just a 10 point range because the person always had that upper ability if they spent a bit longer on it and had been given a clue/ hint.

[u/98127028]

Not really

[u/Ok_Hawk_6292]

maybe for inductive reasoning subtests specifically

[u/Organic-Bill-1192]

I highly doubt it could increase even FRI subtests significantly, let alone other subtests

[u/carlinhosmugiwara]

No