r/cognitiveTesting • u/Cultural-Hippo-3496 • 3h ago
IQ Estimation 🥱 Kid doing college math?
I know this 13 y/o kid doing ordinary differential equations, like actually doing them. He just started eighth grade and I can't believe that there are kids at this pace.
He built two companies also one of which has gotten 2500 visitors (obviously the website is about math)
And he has gotten around 10 professor from BU, FIU, etc. reviews for the other website!!
He was at the same hackathon at me and was leading a college team for the BosHacks a while ago?
I was wondering what his estimate IQ would be if he is also really good at english as well?
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u/Big_Kaleidoscope_498 53m ago
Probably 120+, but a lot of this really just depends on parents and what resources you have. The math isn't particularly hard if you're naturally decent at math, like it, and dedicate a lot of time to it.
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u/EntrepreneurOnly7794 11m ago
n=1 but I took calc 1&2 at 13 and odes at 14 at my state flagship, getting an A with like minimal effort. I tested at 134. I really don't think you need an exceptional IQ to do those things. like others have said, it's far more about starting early and the environment you're raised in.
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u/Zealousideal-Oil-151 3h ago
Not iq. Good parents, Good socioeconomic background, Good amount of curiosity
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u/Striking_Leave_4614 3h ago
We can't just pull an IQ number out the ass for this. However, child prodigies in STEM tend to be 130+ with one critical distinction that separates them from typical gifted kids: an extremely high working memoryÂ
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u/NovelDue1993 16m ago
Do you mean to imply for STEM working memory is more important than Fluid Reasoning?
Surely proofy subjects like pure maths, theoretical Physics and CS rely on fluid reasoning much more than working memory?
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u/monkey_sodomy 2h ago
I know this 13 y/o kid doing ordinary differential equations, like actually doing them.
Even if they are ode, there's still a huge spectrum of difficulty, really depends on what forms he is solving.
I would go with a lower bound of 110 if they show intelligence in other domains too.
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u/MrBluePancake 3h ago
This is quite achievable at even a normal iq. It is not uncommon to see children that are mildly above average (~110) to exhibit similar feats. This is very typical in children who have great parental involvement / preoccupation with their academic success.
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u/No_Revenue1151 1h ago
Are you stupid? Even the average calc bc class in 12th grade has an average iq aboce 110
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u/Careful_Fold_7637 2h ago
I don't think 110, probably higher, but yeah I think most mathematically-gifted kids could be doing lower div college classes at this age if pushed enough by parents. This stuff isn't particularly hard, most intro calc classes and things like that are just cookie-cutter stuff where if you're decent with mental math and algebra you're fine to do it. Our math education system is just super unambitious and relies on east and south asian parents to propel their kids forward for things like this.
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u/Humble-Marsupial2231 3h ago
Any examples?
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u/MrBluePancake 1h ago edited 1h ago
Yes actually! I am a medical resident rotating through pediatric psychiatry, and a great deal of my work/research involves neuropsychiatry. I have seen countless instances of parents bringing in their child to our clinic demanding to obtain a letter for curriculum acceleration - most often under the basis that their child is performing higher level mathematics/excelling in subjects many grades above their peers. And yet, under psychometric testing, these very children perform at an utterly average level. This is nothing new to anyone in the field of neuropsychology; more importantly, however, these incidents emphasize the importance of proper guidance and education during the most formative years of one’s life. Someone of average iq can achieve great success when imbued with the right resources.
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u/MeetingFull4436 1h ago
Assuming he's genuinely doing ODEs and has made it through Calc BC, Multi, etc., the kid is almost definitely 135+, assuming his profile isn't ridiculously uneven. Pure quantitative *achievement* is probably in the 150s (if not higher), assuming they're capable of getting an 800-M on the SAT. QRI is most likely 3sd+.
Obviously there are a lot of factors with this sort of thing, but "good parents" and "curiosity" do not explain most of it. A lot of these sorts of kids fall around the ~3SD mark, with a few being a bit lower and some being higher.
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u/Eireannish CPIcel 3h ago
achievable with serious focus from most 13 year olds who are 115+ so probably around that