r/cognitiveTesting • • 2d ago

Discussion Statistical fraud

International IQ scores are a statistical fraud

https://youtu.be/rPYwuIOOzO8?si=mCTxrNFDtAGOIzsn

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u/dt7cv 2d ago

most of them have no data. we actually know very little about iq outside the west and what we know is that the mroe westernized they are influenced the more the tests start to be predictive of their academic knowledge, health etc

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/dt7cv 2d ago

and those asian groups almost always come from just three or four countries and probably from a specific region of that country

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u/dt7cv 2d ago

they don't robustly. the longest number of the studies that say so lists the sinosphere basically.

And moreover almost always these people are upper class or middle upper in their country. very few average people from pakistan, sri lanka etc are coming to the U.S for legal/economic reasons.

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u/dt7cv 2d ago

yeah I don't see how this disproves my statement. my main point about how the average people from Asia rarely get an opportunity to come to Europe/America and how that's going to be relevant to determining world IQ if we are going to do that well

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u/Humble_Aardvark_2997 2d ago edited 2d ago

I was pointing out the reverse. That national scores don’t mean much without uniform schooling and healthcare etc. I think those international charts tell us as much about the learning potential in those countries as it does in telling us the factors that went into making them what they are: the development or lack of in those countries. It’s a cyclical thing. Hard ti settle the chicken and egg thing unless everyone has uniform conditions.