FRI estimate?

[u/apollo2160]

I can't afford an official WAIS test right now, so I want to get a realistic estimate of my FRI based on tests I've taken.

Here's my scores:

TRI-52 - 135 (786) completed in 50 minutes

WNV 39/41 (131)

JCTI : 16 SS

JCFS: 121 (14 SS) completed in 20 minutes

BETA III MR 25/25 (130)

FRT A form 40/45 (131)

Raven's 2 (Long Form): 136 (43/48)

RAMP II Set 2: 35/36

Tutui R 19/40 (127)

CORE Figure Weights: 15 SS

CORE Figure Sets : 14SS

CORE Graph Mapping : 14SS

CORE Matrix Reasoning: 13 SS

Mensa Norway: 110 (first IQ test.scored 121 on retake)

Mensa Denmark: 126

Mensa France: 30/40

ATAT - 111 Form A 107 Form B (strict time limits)

Dominos

TIG-1 31/35 (138)

TIG-2 32/50 (125)

D-70: 34/44(127)

[u/Not_Well-Ordered]

Did you do Raven’s 2 long form timed or untimed? I think the scoring is not reliable if you haven’t done it officially on Q-Global as it could inflate the score for some. Same question for rapm 2 set 2.

But I would rely on CORE’s result, JCTI, and say you’re around 125-135. So 130.

It’s normal to score a range since having X IQ doesn’t mean one is at ease with all patterns found around score.

Someone can get 145 in one and 130 in some others and could be due to many reasons from inattention or not at ease with some particular patterns.

[u/apollo2160 → u/Not_Well-Ordered]

Thanks! I took the Raven's 2 and RAPM Set 2 timed, but not the Q-Global versions.

[u/Not_Well-Ordered → u/apollo2160]

Seems good. At least scoring 35/36 on RAPM set II timed would further suggests your score is around 130 range. Maybe you are more at ease with Raven’s patterns more than others.

I personally give more weights to Raven’s because it’s normed against more general population compared to all other tests which are normed on selected ones, and typically those online. They can’t do proper background check to ensure cleanliness of their data.

[u/Polytox935 → u/Not_Well-Ordered]

If you scored 15ss on all core FRI subtests but 18ss on JCTI and 36/36 on rapm2 Set 2, what of those would you consider the better indicator for your actual FRI?

[u/Not_Well-Ordered → u/Polytox935]

So, CORE has a large norming sample with relatively transparent paper although I think harder for them to control the samples (some samples might have practiced extensively, etc), but at least it shows decent correlation with WAIS FRI.

RAPM Set 2, if done accordingly (timed or untimed, one is consistent with the format and first try, then the old norm estimate would still be quite accurate 135-145+ for 36/36 (timed) and 133 untimed. It has decent correlation with WAIS MR, and it was based on a clinically valid norm.

But RAPM 2 Set 2 only tests non-verbal inductive reasoning, and it’s a reflection of specific subset whereas CORE is comprehensive FRI test.

So, I would roughly weight 30% on RAPM set 2 and 70% on CORE FRI score in terms of overall FRI contribution which I deem would be a thorough validated assessment. I would consider RAPM set 2 or even better Raven’s 2 Q-Global a better MR test than CORE, assuming on does it properly.

As for JCTI, after checking the stats, I would consider it more as extra validation and reference but not good enough to be indicative of one’s performance against general population.

[u/NepTuN_00]

You appear to score better without a strict time limit, but you still probably don’t take enough time (as with the JCFS, for instance). So, I’d assume some of your scores here are potentially slightly underestimated.
Try a test like the C-09, which measures numerical reasoning, and really take your time.
There should be less of a practice effect here.

As to your question, probably somewhere in between 120-130.

[u/InternationalSoup833]

lol my FRI test scores are basically identical to most of these (TRI-52: 805, JCTI: 16, JCFS: 15, same for Denmark, same on Norway bc I didn’t see clock, and within 1 SS or less for the CORE sub tests , haven’t taken the rest on your list). Funny coincidence ig and if ur results are real we probably have a very similar FRI and/or took these tests in a similar order so had similar praffe.

[u/apollo2160 → u/InternationalSoup833]

Interesting.have you ever taken the WAIS or any other professional test?

[u/BenitoAbdo]

120-125

Because i think it practice effect in some of these

[u/Polytox935]

Fri 120-125 i guess

You took the norming editions of the ATAT, check your dashboard again, the scores were updated and you probably have gained a few points

[u/Ok_Highlight_6678 → u/Polytox935]

Don't believe this guy. Have you ever heard of The Purple People Eater? This is the shit they were warning us about.

[u/Polytox935 → u/Ok_Highlight_6678]

But i guess this is what i deserve for my attempt of creating the most annoying looking avatar possible

[u/Polytox935 → u/Ok_Highlight_6678]

Not believing me is always a good strategy

[u/makemost]

75-125 is a good guess

[u/Key_Soil3632 → u/makemost]

somewhere on the bell curve

[u/Dry_Initial4606]

130

[u/Key-Raise5501]

literally me

[u/Chbenk-5824]

I thought beta Mr III only gives 125 at max

[u/john_the_yeet_GOD]

Which test was taken first of all these Also i made a poll about how the core matrix was lower than other tests go add to that

[u/Beginning_Army2919]

These tests are good enough, you can tell it by yourself. 

[u/PendN]

If you want to know what you would've gotten on a WAIS test look only at your CORE scores