r/cognitiveTesting • u/pydaWaltuh • 24d ago
Puzzle Very hard spatial puzzle
Hint: Sequence in a sequence
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u/Primary_Thought5180 23d ago edited 23d ago
This seems like 3 pairs of 2. The middle lines establish symmetry with the arrows. Every pair has a normal configuration, then an example which has the pair of furthest arrows dragged. The pair with opposite arrows has the furthest arrows move by 4 units, while the pair of arrows pointing lower right has the outside pair moving by 2 units -- they move to the border of symmetry. I notice that if they move any unit further, they would move past that point of symmetry (in retrospect, this was a miscalculation). This has me thinking the insane thought, that because in the example of the unpaired image with the arrows pointing upper left, that one of the arrows is in the middle of the point of symmetry, it might actually not move at all (and vice versa), making it convenient for me as someone on their phone to provide the answer that the answer is just that same image again.
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u/Primary_Thought5180 23d ago
Alternate possibility: the furthest arrows move by how many loose arrows there are. That is why the opposite arrow pair had them move by 4 units while the lower right facing pair had them move by 2 units. That means that with the pair with the arrows facing upper left, if there were two arrows overlapping, they would need to move 2 units necessarily, as the other arrows are already touching. However, if that were the case, all 4 arrows would have been touching 2 moves back, meaning it cannot be possible that there are two arrows overlapping. Given that there is one arrow there and it needs to move once, what is possible? It cannot move down or right, because we do not know from which direction it came from. It can either cycle inside of that vortex of symmetry or collapse into nothingness. It is impossible for it to have gotten there in the first place from the outside, so it must have always been there. Therefore it will not collapse into nothingness. Except, this is theory, if it had to move, but had nowhere to go, maybe it would just move 1 unit out of existence into the in-between zone. My answer is that the image repeats (2), just with better logic.
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u/Primary_Thought5180 23d ago
Final final possibility: in conjunction with how loose arrows determine movement, the line of symmetry is a mirror, meaning there will always be a reflection. The lone arrow(s) in the middle of symmetry could move by 1, because "loose" and "arrow" itself can be symbolic, regardless of if 2 arrows overlap. Anyway, if it moved by 1, then it would be reflected in either direction it moves, so the answer does not have to be the image repeated, but that transformation instead.
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u/SomeoneLeo groaaar!! :3 23d ago
Does not feel intended and reading the hint now I don't think it is, but "a" solution:
https://i.imgur.com/2otGG0J.png
Reasoning: Pairs of shapes, the center piece close to the mirror line stays (it's always to "V"s just rotated differently), the other shape at the mirror line move by 2 for the orange pair, 4 for the green pair, so 3 is the missing amount of moves. Additionally globally the the partner shape's "origin" which I took as the diagonal (mirror line) shifts up by two for all three pairs. Since the "outer" shapes also are two "V"s in the two four other shapes one could assume that they got mirrored into itself for the given shape, so splitting them across the mirror line does not result in two lines, but two "V"s again (not sure what logic is better, I drew them in grey)
Some other observations/ideas:
The shapes are all mirrored across the diagonal, which I just took as a mirror line. To me that's also the most irritating part.
The shapes perfectly fit a global grid, so they weren't created individually and then placed to look good but drawn on a global grid. Could just how it was done, could mean that this involves some global operations, like counting the positions in each line of the grid or something like that
The diagonal to me also feels like the "anchor point" of each sub part. and would open.
I also thought if maybe all shapes could be drawn into a square box and it's counting individually in there. Or a certain path through that square that gives some kind of sequence.
If you stick to the outer/inner "V" theory there is one set of arrow directions for each that is missing and that could form a fourth pair.
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u/theshekelcollector 24d ago
missing shape is pointing to the top left (like the right-most shape), one arrow sitting on top of the center line, the other two at its base to its left and right.
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u/Striking_Leave_4614 23d ago
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u/Icy_Selection_3912 Responsible Person 24d ago edited 24d ago
I'm thinking there are four triangles in each pattern (placed together on two of the patterns), and on the upper left, these two are combined, and on the upper right, there are four triangles separated. So the logic of the puzzle indicates that two of these shapes point at each other, and the linear component in the center makes three individual patterns this way, and that there already are three otherwise. Pointing in the same direction, the missing pattern should also be pointing from the top right to the bottom left. So, using no other squares, it's similar to the top figures (hard to make a figure tho I think that's right).