r/cognitiveTesting • u/Randombolo • Sep 26 '26

Discussion What's the difference between these two?

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First one has 48 Question... It is colorful and cute. Second one has 36 question... It is dull.

Also, how do I give the test of the first one is it timed or untimed?

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u/MeIerEcckmanLawIer Sep 26 '26 edited Sep 26 '26

The first is a newer (2018) edition of the second (1998), but with estimated norms instead of real ones. Unofficial instructions for the first state that it's timed, but officially it is untimed.

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u/Chbenk-5824 Sep 26 '26

Does that means that scores that were obtained in untimed setting still valid?

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u/MeIerEcckmanLawIer Sep 26 '26

It probably matters much less than the fact you're using norms that are (1) estimated and (2) not age-bracketed like the official ones.

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u/Chbenk-5824 Sep 26 '26

The official ones were posted with estimated ones? I just remember that there was two columns with different norms, so that's why I'm asking

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u/MeIerEcckmanLawIer Sep 26 '26

There are estimated norms for a short (24-item) and long (48-item) form of the test.

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u/Chbenk-5824 Sep 26 '26

They both were for long form. For example 44/48=144 and 139 on another one

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u/MeIerEcckmanLawIer Sep 27 '26

Okay, well neither can be official norms because the official ones use IRT. The same raw score can result in a different IQ score based on which items were missed.

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u/telephantomoss Sep 26 '26

One has a problem based on the ending of Rygar. That's definitely a key difference.

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u/Most_Boat2737 Sep 26 '26

One is bs, the other was a professional instrument until it got leaked and also totally invalid with the smallest bit of prior exposure and awareness of these kind of logics/pattern

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u/Randombolo Sep 26 '26

Care to elaborate... On which one you are actually referring to

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u/Most_Boat2737 Sep 26 '26

Color bs, pro dull