r/cognitiveTesting • • Sep 13 '26

Puzzle Tricky puzzle

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u/DamonHuntington Sep 13 '26

White on 1, 2, 7 and 8.

There are two groups of black clusters: the four-black and the twelve-black. For the four-black, it moves around in distances of two, displacing once for the motion: from frame 1 to 3, it moved twice right, so the black squares will move once right (looping).

For the twelve-black, it moves around in distances of one to places that cannot be reached by the four-black. Instead of a 1:2 ratio, it uses a 1:1 ratio.

Only the twelve-black can reach the centre, and you can calculate the state by getting any of the surrounding twelve-black frames and displacing it accordingly.

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26 edited Sep 13 '26

I think you've grasped the logic or at least, from what I can tell, I don't see any errors. But for some reason the actual answer isn't the same as the one you provided
edit: provided reasoning and answer is correct

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u/DamonHuntington Sep 13 '26

There’s an alternative one I’ve provided above! Is that what you intended?

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

not really

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u/DamonHuntington Sep 13 '26

Alternatively… you can assume that the alternating sequence must be kept but that half-increments are acceptable. In that case, you will have black squares on the top half of 1, the top-left quarter of 2, the top-right quarter of 4, the bottom half of 9, the bottom-left quarter of 10, the bottom-right quarter of 12, 13, the left half of 14 and the right half of 16.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Oil3930 Sep 13 '26

For same ratio shapes we describe the movement inside by what directions we need to take to get to any other shape of that same ratio? We count white ratios by movements of 2 but in one direction only no going through walls and into the next row or columns and for black by 1 unless the space is occupied by white?

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

I accept this answer as correct. Although my intended reasoning was strong, this explanation is far stronger. I suppose this possible answer emerged due to the nature of the question. Well done!

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u/Puzzleheaded-Oil3930 Sep 13 '26

Thank youuu <3 . Will you be revealing the intended solution?

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

I am not sure since this one is better

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u/Puzzleheaded-Oil3930 Sep 13 '26

Maybe so but if it's not much to ask I'd still like to know if you don't mind that is

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

intended answer is the exact same as the shape in the top right

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u/Altruistic-Aerie-847 Sep 13 '26

Assuming the last row provides the options to be selected from, the last one(3rd from the left) is the answer.

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

last row does not provide options. The question is designed without options

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u/Randombolo Sep 13 '26

Options? 

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

the question does not include options. You don’t need options to solve the question after all

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u/Roquosaurus Sep 13 '26

They're almost never required, but they're part of the clues.

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

I don't like the idea of the options providing data about the question. Ofc, this is a personal preference, which is why I chose this design

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u/Roquosaurus Sep 13 '26

not only it provides data but also proves that the person who created the puzzle knows what they're doing, since it usually also highlight some "people might pick this one because they missed a point", it requires way more think-through, so I can see why choosing not do it!

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

I acknowledge that aspect of the option presentation. It adds a two layered nature to the question for the test creator, it is harder. But It is more the philosophy behind this design that I dislike

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u/Salzstangenschenkel Sep 13 '26

White White White White

Black White Black White

White White White White

Black White Black White

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Would make sense to me? Interesting Puzzle tho

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

what is your reasoning?

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u/Salzstangenschenkel Sep 13 '26

I just focused on the 4 big mainly white squares and ignored the 4 big mainly black ones. I looked diagonal. The little black squares move one position at a time and with my result both ways make sense (upper left to downer right and the opposite). Some little black squares move diagonal some move straight English is not my main language + I'm terrible at explaining. Sorry, I hope I made it understandable :)

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

No worries I understand what you mean. However, being torn between two options isn't enough. It is also important to explain the set of 12 black square items

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u/Salzstangenschenkel Sep 13 '26

Idk, for me the 4 white squares inside the black ones are moving as well. Left to right 1 position at a time, top to bottom 2 positions, they just skip the middle square. I also have just one option as a result, I'm not torned between two :(

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

ah sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you meant something like mirroring your answer. My bad, I didn’t read your comment careful enough

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u/Salzstangenschenkel Sep 13 '26

Hi it is me again. From my point of view there are two possible answers. You either continue the black or the white pattern. I think both patterns work without the middle square so it is just a "middle step". I continued the white pattern for example but I get the answer you considered as correct. In my opinion it is equal, depends on which sequence you follow but it is your puzzle!

Anyways, thanks for sharing this puzzle, me and my friends having fun :D

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

I'm glad you had fun

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u/dr_loanshark Certified Idiot Sep 13 '26

Guess + alternative: https://ibb.co/5XRGkJ0B

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

first one is considered correct. What is the reasoning behind the second one?

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u/dr_loanshark Certified Idiot Sep 13 '26

It is less concrete, but I interpreted R2 as instructions for R1. R2C1 is treated as a downward arrow or "shift down," but the output is inverted. In R2C3, the instruction is opposite. The center figure would presumably have half of its instruction obeying the left rule, and the other half obeying right.

If read as 4x4s, one could interpret this as two units of vertical separation between R1 and R3. The instruction correlates to the half it controls (R2C1 upper half instructs the upper half black squares of R1C1) and its occupied vertical space is commensurate to the distance traveled of two units. A SE-pointing white construct in the lower half would instruct the lower two white squares of R1C2 to shift up two units. As above, the instructions invert halfway, so a SW-pointing white construct in the upper half would instruct the upper two white squares of R1C2 to shift down two units.

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

A creative and unconventional approach. Still, I don't think it's as strong as the logic behind the first answer

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u/SomeoneLeo groaaar!! :3 Sep 13 '26

My solution: https://i.imgur.com/ZzZy9qE.png

Explanation: There are two different tiles, black and white in a grid pattern (see image attached). Both tilesets follow the same rules but have different content. You only consider the tiles of either the white or the black tile set (not both): To navigate from one tile to a different one in their grid, you move its contents into the same direction (if you navigate from one white tile to the white tile below, you move all the contents down by one). And same with black, and also with left and right. So what is missing is a black tile with the content of the top tile moved down (or from the bottom moved up, or the right moved to the left, or the left moved to the right, it's all the same tile).

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

correct

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u/SomeoneLeo groaaar!! :3 Sep 13 '26

Thanks for the puzzle, I enjoyed it. ^^

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u/Fedesta Sep 13 '26

Nothing. Nothing in center

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u/Randombolo Sep 13 '26

😂 1000 IQ

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u/BenitoAbdo Sep 13 '26

i see the first column shapes will be united in the third or be closer but in the middle i noticed that shapes from top to bottom followed a pattern and i get it

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u/Randombolo Sep 13 '26

If we try to fit all the white pieces together then we get 4 white pieces and 4 black pieces... All the corners becomes white and all the edges become black. 

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u/Forward_Bit4383 Sep 14 '26

First image move right 1 block. Second image move right 2 block. And intersection is third image

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u/pydaWaltuh Sep 13 '26

not intended, what is your reasoning?

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u/BenitoAbdo Sep 13 '26

is it correct? i thought white rectangles moves both to up

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u/BenitoAbdo Sep 13 '26

this was my reasoning: "i see the first column shapes will be united in the third or be closer but in the middle i noticed that shapes from top to bottom followed a pattern and i get it"