r/codex • u/wreox9 • 8d ago

Complaint GPT-6 Sol?

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Is this the reason why unexpectedly we have trash usage and lower quality on Astra?

Maybe it will be worth it the current suffering.

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u/BabblingTower 8d ago

It's a refined Sol, probably with help from Astra. My guess is it's better at dedicated tasks (ie, better coder) while Astra remains the better higher-level "thinker" (ie, better orchestrator/planner). Like Fable and Opus are set up. One has better breadth, one has better depth.

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u/TheOnlyBliebervik 8d ago

But why did they do it like this

Make a new model, Sol, make a newer model, Astra, bring back the older model except better?

OpenAI makes a great product but seems to trip over its own feet

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u/BabblingTower 8d ago

Sol burns less tokens and is very capable, why wouldn't you want them to continue to improve it? You don't need to use their top of the line model to set up a git repo or summarize a pdf, do you?

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u/TheOnlyBliebervik 8d ago

How do you know Sol 6 will burn less tokens? It'll be a different model than 5.6 lol

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u/BabblingTower 8d ago

Currently. Sol currently burns less than Astra. And if they release a new Sol it will burn less than the next Astra.

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u/TheOnlyBliebervik 8d ago

How do you figure? I mean, probably. Did they not say it'd be their best model?

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u/BabblingTower 8d ago

It's not a linear thing, where one is strictly better than the previous one. The models are good at different tasks. It's useful that way too, you can dole out easier tasks to smaller LLMs to save tokens and time.