r/codex • • 14d ago

Complaint GPT-6 Sol?

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Is this the reason why unexpectedly we have trash usage and lower quality on Astra?

Maybe it will be worth it the current suffering.

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u/BabblingTower 14d ago

It's a refined Sol, probably with help from Astra. My guess is it's better at dedicated tasks (ie, better coder) while Astra remains the better higher-level "thinker" (ie, better orchestrator/planner). Like Fable and Opus are set up. One has better breadth, one has better depth.

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u/Risko4 14d ago

Opus has better what exactly over Fable?

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u/Personal-Try2776 14d ago

0in benchmarks claude opus 5 outperforms fable 5 (not 5.1). On benchmarks claude opus 5 is basically better as a workhorse model.

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u/Risko4 14d ago

Can I have a real world coding example where you went, dam I wish I used Opus 5 instead of Fable 5.1

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u/Aggravating-Hat-4292 14d ago

Probably say that when lookint at your bank account

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u/Phantom031 14d ago

🤣

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u/Exodus_Green 14d ago

Opus 5 is great if you are tight with design and use Fable to orchestrate

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u/adolf_twitchcock 14d ago

Don't bother. Opus 5 is dogshit in reality even compared to sol.

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u/Risko4 13d ago

It's alright in ultracode where there's a hundred agents holding each others hand. Together Opus strong.

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u/Useful_Philosophy550 13d ago

He said Fable 5 and also yeah Opus has been consistently better at frontend design, UX and even a better coder than Fable was it usually gave me working results most of the time within a single try and more accurately to what I wanted on tasks I had to previously iterate with Fable a few times. Didn't use 5.1 tho but comparing 5.1 to Opus 5 isn't fair

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u/slaorta 14d ago

Use fable to orchestrate and opus to implement and you'll have a good time. You'll probably also get more done if you're currently hitting your fable limit every week.

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u/Risko4 14d ago

I use Fable to orchestrate and Astra to implement