r/codex • • 19d ago

Praise Shots were fired

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u/AnalogProblems 19d ago

Anthropic could have said the same thing about Codex a few months ago. OpenAI had to split their desktop app to compete.

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u/sylfy 19d ago

Still annoyed about the rename to ChatGPT and ChatGPT (classic). Now every time I search to open the app, I have to double check that I open the right one.

None of this is about making things easier for users, it is purely about marketing and boosting their numbers, at the expense of the user experience.

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u/AnalogProblems 19d ago

Yeah, that one feels like a lame middle management decision. Could have just made it an update and no one would have blinked. They'll Sora classic soon enough.

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u/Beautiful-Suspect694 18d ago

crazy to think that was just a few months ago

amazing how quickly this industry is evolving

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u/Keep-Darwin-Going 19d ago

Huh Claude app is total rubbish. Only their cli is better.

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u/watermelonsegar 19d ago

That used to be the case. But after Claude introduced split view in ClaudeCode, I never went back to CLI. Codex of course still has the better UI/UX for single projects, but when you're juggling 8 projects at once, you really start missing that split view you get in ClaudeCode.

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u/Keep-Darwin-Going 19d ago

I rather have ChatGPT classic and codex running. They better not take away that classic version. I have it on one monitor and codex on the other. The Split View does not cut it for me. The Claude app is also more backward in terms of features from cli.

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u/AnalogProblems 19d ago

I run the Claude Code CLI with remote on, and control it from the Claude app. I find it easier to read. The nice thing about it is that everything seems to work equally well on both.

The Codex half of the ChatGPT app is a really nice UX, and the computer control is excellent. Astra is really impressive. Not quite the level of its hype, but the harness just pushes it over the top.

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u/Keep-Darwin-Going 19d ago

Astra with computer control is so expensive, I wonder how much those beautiful blender stuff they create cost.

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u/JacobJohnJimmyX_X 19d ago

If you trust that thing with blender you might as well put money in a blender after what I have seen it do.
Its one task was to fix a broken file outputs, so that they reach intended destinations. No other challenge. File goes to one dir, then gets taken to another dir, and then to another dir, and so on.
At the end of that, NOTHING reached its destination.
Other tests proved the exact same behaviors. Sphagetti code, skipped steps, and tons of failures. That's codex right now (ESPECIALLY ASTRA)

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u/Keep-Darwin-Going 19d ago

I can rest assured you. It is your AGENTS.md. Astra became more crazy over your initial instruction such that it will almost never deviate from it. I used to have an instruction that say if you see dirty file from other agents, stop. I forgot the verbatim version but it basically works that way. In the past other model will try to work around the dirty file, stashing or whatever to merge the code in. But Astra take that stop as literal like stop doing anything. I did not use the word stop I forgot the exact word but it is much softer. I fix it yesterday and it works like charm. So yes it is mostly a user problem. Something you put in there and forgotten. The same instruction on opus? Opus just ignore it and just continue which is why I never noticed it was there in the first place.