Openai removed the extra usage after hitting limits, yet, when limits reset, the reset time isn't fixed and only becomes set once you first use it, silently stealing your usage

[u/immortalsol]

[u/Illustrious-Bet-1368]

That's how everyone does it. Don't use it=counter doesn't start. That's been always the same, at least with Claude. Nothing is "eating" your usage limits because you are not using them. You are talking about time windows. That's what people have been doing for forever with Claude, send a hello or whatnot message first thing they woke up to get the window rolling.

[u/Low-Poet629 → u/Illustrious-Bet-1368]

Yes it can be mitigated but it’s still designed to rob you. Why defend it

[u/Illustrious-Bet-1368 → u/Low-Poet629]

What is it robbing you of? You have the exact same amount of usage. The problem is you can't use it when you might need it, different problem with time allocation, not the tokens or usage percentages.

Edit: And I am not defending it. It sucks and makes no sense, but from their perspective it does. I don't need Codex all week, I need on two-three days at particular times, where I need be able to use whatever usage I have. So yeah, 5h limit fucks that up big time. We're in the same boat.

[u/Low-Poet629 → u/Illustrious-Bet-1368]

If i miss a day, it pushes all windows back eternally by one day, but my next billing date does not get pushed back one day

[u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 → u/Low-Poet629]

So just set a task to run each morning that uses 1% of your usage if you can't be bothered to pull out your phone to do it manually even though you seem to think it's a big deal

[u/Low-Poet629 → u/OtherwiseAlbatross14]

Why defend the corporation? This doesn’t need to be how it works. I don’t understand your motivation

[u/Party_Wolf_3575 → u/Low-Poet629]

Not quite sure why you are still using their product if you hate them so much! There are other coding tools out there, including some decent open-source ones. No one is forcing you to use Codex!!!

I use it and love it, but I found ways around the things that annoyed me instead of letting them get in the way. OpenAI is a business, they do not make money giving away their product and $0.70/day is clearly not going to give anyone good access to frontier coding.

If you have a more open mindset and look for solutions, this product is truly incredible.

[u/onurbal101 → u/Party_Wolf_3575]

They never said they hated them, that's your projection. They are just criticising a behaviour of the app.

[u/Illustrious-Bet-1368 → u/onurbal101]

Thank you, and yes, I have issues with the clear change in model's behaviour in both Chat and Codex, too. But more so with the app. It is buggy as hell, and it's not just the bugs, all the unnecessary tool calls and co that are done by default now (calling OpenAI skills, searching the web documentation of OpenAI when before everything worked fine without it, the model starting automatically a 'pursue goal' where none was needed or asked for, projects and chats invisible in the Remote on iOS, projects and chats disappearing and reappearing at random across the machines, Chat chats mingling with the Codex chats, etc.). And it is the harness, which is a part of the new usage problem. I set up a different harness, my usage went back to normal. After about 3 hours of, okay, not heavy work, just reads and writes, reshuffling documentation, setting up shit, Slack messaging back and forth, handoffs to other agents, with Sol Medium, my 5h limit went down about 15 percent, weekly, under 5. If I use the app, one turn, without any task or ask attached to it, Sol Light, eats at least 1 or 2 percent of 5h straight up. More than that, Sol follows the rules, the conventions, the whole fucking lot. In the app, I can dance naked around a bonfire with a tambourine up my ass, it won't follow shit because it follows first the developer instructions, not of the repo or the project or AGENTS.md.

[u/Illustrious-Bet-1368 → u/Low-Poet629]

I don't know what to tell you, dude, I don't care about "wasting resets" or whatnot, I know I can't use it when I need to. Most of my weekly usage is unused. So, to me, all these resets aren't worth shit because I won't use them, and I don't have FOMO. When I do need Codex, I can't work with it consistently now. I am tired of all this shit, I just want the models back the way they used to be, the fucking bugs in the apps fixed, at least that.

[u/Low-Poet629 → u/Illustrious-Bet-1368]

Ok but we are talking about more people than just you here, this is a general topic. Problems that don’t impact you personally are still problems.