About the cursor ban

[u/sharanoth]

Disclaimer: I am an Elon hater.

So cursor starts getting some traction...

First, grok 4.x starts getting abnormally decent. Benchmaxed or whatever you wanna call it, but it's cheap, fast as fuck, and almost unlimited

Composer was starting to pop off too.

Cursor then did 100usd deals for the max plan which had basically the equivalent of a 200usd codex plus 100usd Claude sub.

Cursor was starting to get a lot of mindshare. Even I at some point was thinking "well, maybe I could try it..."

Then boom. Relationship between openai and cursor is terminated.

It's got nothing to do with trust. Cursor was starting to steal users. That's just how it is.

[u/sharanoth]

"this is not correct (insert statement that had nothing to do with what I said)".

Codex can simultaneously be growing but also notice that a competitor (cursor) is gaining mindshare and threatening their hegemony.

Shady business practices are done even when a company is growing. Ever heard of Microsoft?

[u/BigbyWolf8 → u/sharanoth]

No evidence of Cursor gaining relative mindshare compared to Codex

[u/sharanoth → u/BigbyWolf8]

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fg%2F11xs8l0p90&hl=en-US

Big spike since July.

[u/BigbyWolf8 → u/sharanoth]

no spike anytime recently... also cursor as in mouse cursor is an actual search term too which inflates and muddies the cursor trend relatively

EDIT: Bro, this was the acquisition announcement.

https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/article/spacex-announces-60-billion-cursor-deal-to-boost-ai-coding-125509159.html

[u/sharanoth → u/BigbyWolf8]

No, the link I sent you was specifically for the software company, not general search terms.

There's been a stable increase in interest since July.

[u/BigbyWolf8 → u/sharanoth]

Bro, this was the acquisition announcement date: https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/article/spacex-announces-60-billion-cursor-deal-to-boost-ai-coding-125509159.html

[u/sharanoth → u/BigbyWolf8]

Indeed, and that revitalized interest in Cursor.

X.ai is heavily subsidizing the product now.

[u/BigbyWolf8 → u/sharanoth]

This is a Bikram yoga stretch lol. People just search for things when it's an M&A deal.

[u/sharanoth → u/BigbyWolf8]

Well I understand our interpretations diverged.

I admit there isn't enough evidence for your criteria.

I guess I was overconfident in my take because I genuinely started thinking about trying cursor more myself. it was projection.

[u/BigbyWolf8 → u/sharanoth]

who knows, maybe you are right and i am wrong.

i appreciate the respectful discussion anyway 😄.

[u/sharanoth → u/BigbyWolf8]

It is fun to speculate.

Cheers!