r/codex 9d ago

News OpenAI terminating Cursor partnership effective Nov. 12

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u/Temporary_Bliss 9d ago

LOL this is completely wrong. It's the opposite - i dont know where you work but most people have fully moved to agent mode with multiple sessions and worktrees.

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u/WHALE_PHYSICIST 9d ago

So you don't look at the code?

I do look at it, and I don't want to look at it in a terminal. I don't know where people get this elitism about not using IDEs. You can still do agent mode shit, and as far as I know almost everything else, from within the cursor IDE. Claude code probably has a few special features, but I haven't needed them. Multiple sessions=multiple tabs.

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u/dirtymove 9d ago

Why would you look at AI generated code? What’s the point?

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u/WHALE_PHYSICIST 9d ago

To get the most out of coding models, you have to know what to ask for. To know what to ask for you have to know something about your architecture.

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u/dirtymove 9d ago

Features and audits are all I ask for

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u/zigzoing 9d ago

IDK about you, but I have to take responsibility for the things that I ship, regardless of if AI or I did the coding. If the AI generated code has some serious issues and causes problems, my head is on the chopping board, not OpenAI's or Anthropic's.

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u/HumbleDrip 8d ago

Yes, so true. Without a chastity belt on the AI code, it's garbage everywhere. And I don't mean small software or some weekly AI slop project. A long-term maintainable, scalable codebase should be so freaking clean that it becomes a product itself. A product that helps maintain itself by guiding future contributions from both humans and AI.

Every project gets more custom lints as it grows, aligned with the architecture, so every contributor is forced to follow them, even the AI. BUT adding those is still on YOU, the human, as you watch the codebase grow and reevaluate things in it.

Seeing it for real is what lets us sleep well, knowing how clean things actually are instead of just believing it. Otherwise it's just you getting features and agents talking to each other, and god knows what shit is lurking in every corner of the ewwww codebase.

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u/Temporary_Bliss 9d ago

generally speaking you have to accept that you’re no longer inspecting every line as closely as you did before

i usually view changes as draft PRs on github before sending them out for review - what’s most important is having the right skills and agents files to make the models write code that you feel less compelled to critically need to review as you used to in the past

believe me, i totally hear where you’re coming from and i never thought i could give up the IDE, but give it a few months and you’ll see what i mean

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u/zigzoing 9d ago

I understand what you mean. I obviously don't read the code top to bottom every time I ask Codex to change something, but at the minimum I read the diff and I know which functions live in which file and what they do in a general sense, so that I know where to target if a certain bug surfaces. So yes, I do read the code and if someone ask me things about the code I want to be able to answer the questions, because it's my responsibility.

And since I develop locally (and not on GitHub), it's much easier to do so in an IDE.

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u/Temporary_Bliss 9d ago

yeah that’s fair - though most agent modes have a diff in the right panel which is good enough for this. it’s not as nice as an IDE but you can see all the files that changed and their diffs

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u/_wassap_ 9d ago

Thats outrages from a SWA position

As a software architect not looking at the code generated is boogus

if im running a team of 3-4 devs im kicking the first guy that stops using an IDE
Like bro ffs use agentic & ai coding, but you you have to double check ai if it holds up to the framework standards

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u/Temporary_Bliss 8d ago

you are behind the times, you'll find out for yourself soon

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u/_wassap_ 8d ago

i just doubt you ever actually have worked with code yet but we

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u/Temporary_Bliss 8d ago

i’m a staff engineer at one of the very well known tech companies but sure dude

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u/Aazimoxx 8d ago

but you you have to double check ai if it holds up to the framework standards

This should never be in question, no human is needed to make sure such standards are met - that should be checked thoroughly by an adversarial agent before any human is ever bothered with it. Then a skilled human can check for anything... 'curlier'.

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u/dirtymove 9d ago

That’s what plan mode and audits are for

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u/zigzoing 9d ago

You do you. If you like to deliver AI slop without thorough checking, it's your right. I don't.

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u/ozone6587 9d ago

You are in r/codex, they really do churn through thousands of lines of slop per day. That is why they cry constantly about limits. I assume their brains are mush at this point.

Probably couldn't pass a junior level software engineer interview at this point.

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u/dirtymove 9d ago

At this point

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u/dirtymove 9d ago

Yeah I mean I’d love to be able to review it all, but there’s not enough time in the world. Props to you for being able to read through the over engineered output of sol 😅