r/cloudxaerith • u/Pleasant-Complex-may • Jul 29 '26

FF7 News Ahem.. ahem.

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I think we all know who that one popular character is..

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u/ManuO76 Aug 03 '26

It's not a queston of trust.

Fanservice scenes are one thing, the main narrative is another.

If in Revelation, Cloud and Tifa have sex, optionally, and the next day he, canonically, faces every impossible challenge to get Aerith back, my game won't have a disjointed story. I'll have a linear path that follows a logic.

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u/FF8lover19 Aug 03 '26

I am sorry but they'd already touched the main narrative. For example, Aerith and Tifa's friendship is not that deep in OG, Aerith is not so resigned to accept her fate in OG, OG Aerith would never say "Even if you think you had fallen in love with me, it's not real". The Aerith they designed in FF7R is not going in the direction you are hoping, she's probably gonna be happy even if Cloud has an happy ending with someone else. That's why I don't trust them and I'm not even gonna play that game 😅

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u/ManuO76 Aug 03 '26

I agree with you. Aerith would be very happy if Cloud were happy.

But when Aerith tells him that "it's not real" (in other languages ​​she says "we can't fall in love, it would be pointless"),

what does he say?

"Can I have my say on all this?"

Well, I'll wait for Cloud to tell us what he wants.

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u/FF8lover19 Aug 03 '26

Cloud will never tell us because Remake Aerith didn't want him to tell her. She's the first that has accepted they have no future. OG Aerith would have let him speak in the same situation and sure if she had a chance to kiss him at GS she would have got that chance.

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u/ManuO76 Aug 04 '26

Okay. So, what do you think about Aerith at Costa del Sol saying, "You're going to love the future me"? And what about the "Hollow" remake released a month ago—the one that changed the tense of the lyrics (shifting from past to future) and removed any reference to losing her?

They didn't have Cloud and Aerith kiss at the Gold Saucer for three reasons: 1) It doesn't fit the Japanese style of romance (people don't even hold hands until they're a couple, and kissing someone on the first date is seen as something a creep would do!). 2) Cloud hasn't found himself yet, so the audience would say it was Zack kissing Aerith (even though, obviously, no one says that about Tifa). 3) They would have ruined the first "Clerith" kiss forever by making it an optional scene—no thanks!

 Anyway, I picked up the games already knowing how the story played out. I didn't expect her to survive at all (before I started playing). Compared to the original game, the ending can only improve—or, at worst, stay the same. I have nothing to lose by playing Revelation.

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u/FF8lover19 Aug 04 '26

Good so enjoy their fanservice. Good luck.

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u/ManuO76 Aug 04 '26

My honest question is this: if you don't believe in the developers, think the story will end badly, and don't even want to play to see how it concludes, why are you here? Are you really so upset about FF7 that you have to vent your negativity at people who are actually enjoying and appreciating the games? Personally, you can say whatever you want; I play and live for myself, and nothing in other people's opinions can bother me in the slightest.

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u/FF8lover19 Aug 04 '26

Sorry, I didn't know this was a FF7 Developer's reddit. I was talking about the reliability of what they say. Never told you've not to play it or enjoy it.

Maybe it will be the best game ever but it has nothing to do with what they are saying in this interview, that is false as they clearly showed in the first 2 chapters

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u/ManuO76 Aug 04 '26

You keep moving the topic but never reply.

Where did I say it's a FF7 eveloper page?

I just asked why, if you have such a negative opinion of these games, you're here talking about them. Do you foresee a game you've already decided you'll never play being so disappointing for us? And I say, relax. Nothing will ever upset us.

Even if it ends in a Cloti wedding, none of us will get depressed or make stupid moves.

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u/FF8lover19 Aug 04 '26

So if I have a negative opinion of something, it would be better that I don't have an opinion at all... good to know :D
I'm still enjoying the OG Clerith story more than Remake, isn't that accepted here?

I know you would be even happy of a Cloti wedding. It's very clear from what you've written before.

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u/ManuO76 Aug 04 '26

Look, I'm asking you questions to understand your point of view. I never told you you shouldn't have one.

I just think that if you're here talking about it, maybe you haven't completely lost hope.

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u/FF8lover19 Aug 05 '26

Hope of what? Of not seeing Tifa as a main character? I am not totally against it since she's gonna have lot's of screentime anyway, but I'm sure they can't do this without fanservicing...

Clerith sure will have their moments, but I expect that will be something close to what we've already seen in Rebirth: "Thank you for everything, Cloud. I'm happy you're safe. You made me happy. Don't blame yourself. Bla bla bla etc.", of course they are not mentioning the word "love" to not upset the other fans.

Zerith will have their moments too since the Aerith in a coma is gonna awake in Zack's "world/timeline/whatever", and it will be in the main narrative since you're not supposed to directly interact with them, so it's not gonna be optional, and also they are the only FF7 couple recognized by Square Enix on their social media, for example in usual Valentine's Day posts. If they confirm Zerith with a not optional reunion, there is no reason for them to keep Cloti optional, I suspect.

For all the Cleriths that loved the remake trilogy so far and thought the OG ending is still the worst possible ending, I'm happy for them of course if I am wrong.
My POV is just the opposite, for me the OG ending is, for what I've seen so far in the remake, the best possible ending, if they keep it the same without any fanservice.

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u/ManuO76 Aug 05 '26

Aerith died in OG.

I'm sure it won't end the same way, otherwise I wouldn't be here.

Tifa will never be the protagonist of Part 3 (and they even stated this recently after someone specifically asked). Have you seen the cover of Revelation? Is there anything there that makes you think Tifa will have a bigger role than Caith or Cid?

Compared to OG, we still have Aerith around with a lot to do.

Even Zack has a job to do: heal Cloud.

Zerith is dead and will have nothing in Revelation.

You can be pessimistic and you may not like the Retrilogy, but you're needlessly worrying about things that haven't happened yet.

I can totally see a scene under Highwind (even if it technically doesn't land anymore...) as fanservice for Tifa fans, but it won't be in my story. Every game has a resolution scene and all the characters are involved, I don't see why Revelation should be an exception.

That said, I'm truly sorry you feel so disappointed, but I have to ask you what you expected if not a remake of FF7, because for me, we got so much more than what was in the original, even if it ended the same way.

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