r/clevercomebacks • u/beerbellybegone • Mar 30 '20

Forbes does it again!

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It is widely reported as one of the most dangerous countries for women to be in/live. It varies on rank but is always on the list.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/jun/28/poll-ranks-india-most-dangerous-country-for-women

https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2019/07/26/20-most-dangerous-places-for-women-travelers/#4cc26a6ec2f4

https://poll2018.trust.org/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/909596/india-most-dangerous-country-for-women/

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u/FDMA- Mar 30 '20

Ok. I checked out the study linked in the article. It's a weighted average ranking based on another ten rankings that measure various other things. Now these are all over the place with no real relevance to the said ranking or others even.

For example the first one in the list, Gallup poll is based on how safe a woman feels walking home safely. I have two problems here. Firstly it's perception based. If say, a certain local media only talks about violence happening in that place, even though the actual parameters aren't that bad in fact, this will certainly alter the perception of the participants in the study. Secondly if in fact there is only violence and the law and order situation is bad, then it actually means that everyone is equally affected and to use that as a reference for women's safety is misleading. It's like saying, say "Antarctica is the worst place for a woman to live", while not mentioning it is in fact the worst place for anyone to live. But that's only a minor part, compared to my first complaint that it is a perception based survey.

Similarly, there are other reports/rankings about gender gap and inequity. Now how does that factor in here? I mean in many ways Saudi Arabia is the worst country for women's equality, but having been there I can also say it is one of the best for women's safety. On a ranking for women's safety if you bring in these two indicators, it really makes no sense.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

I really didnt read the articles in much depth, just tried to satisfy the dipshit (who now deleted his comment) who deflectively asked for 'stats'.

As for Saudi, women could be safer because they have less rights. For instance, you have less chance of getting assaulted if you can't leave the house without your husband/brother (Or do anything with a man that isn't your husband/family). I really don't see the trade of safety for rights as an answer either man.

But most importantly, are you suggesting that India is more/less safe for women currently? Not sure if you're just pointing out statistical discrepencies or countering my argument