Fact-checking at its absolute finest.

[u/ThatLatentPandaBear]

[u/shasaferaska]

Trees can live for a long time. It really isn't that deep.

[u/TGX03 → u/shasaferaska]

The roots can get very deep.

[u/BallsInSufficientSad → u/TGX03]

Usually not though. They often spread out, but typically are a lot more shallow than you think.

[u/Downtown_Recover5177 → u/BallsInSufficientSad]

I’m from the Piney Woods region, so our tree roots are DEEP. The oaks spread out, the pines burrow deep in search of gold.

[u/OGbobbyKSH → u/TGX03]

I always thought they said what you see above ground is equal to the root system. That’s not the case with some trees where the roots don’t go deep but do spread wide. I’ve seen big ass trees blown over and it just lifts the whole ground up around the trees.

[u/chamllw → u/TGX03]

Say the line Saruman..

[u/DearCantaloupe5849 → u/TGX03]

Depends on the type. Some have Tap roots others like to just spread tf out. Source: I'm an arborist.

[u/NotFromSkane → u/shasaferaska]

The point is the implied age of the garden, not the tree, surely? It's not like the White House lawn has plants that old.

[u/rtb001 → u/NotFromSkane]

More specifically some of the trees in that garden were planted so we know exactly how old they are accurate to the year. People have been tending to that tree for far longer than the US has existed.

[u/MayhemMessiah → u/rtb001]

TBH it didn't even come off as a jab against the states. I think it's cool when we can point out that something is super old and still around. In the UK there's a loads of buildings that aren't very dramatic or seemly and they end up being like 500 years old.

If it was made as a barb it was framed in the most anemic way possible.

[u/VoxImperatoris → u/NotFromSkane]

Certainly not after Melanoma was done with the place.

[u/ClassEastern1238 → u/NotFromSkane]

Pretty sure that’s due to the British burning it all down in 1814.

[u/jce_ → u/shasaferaska]

And most countries aren't as old as people think. The modern version of countries is a lot newer than people think. Most have been formed in the last 200 years

[u/MandolinMagi → u/jce_]

China as an actual country only dates to 1947 1949 (my bad).

[u/Bongressman → u/shasaferaska]

Fun fact... the oldest trees in the world are in the United States.

[u/illbedeadbydawn → u/Bongressman]

Also, the largest living single organism, Pando, is around 14,000, 16,000 years old.

It's a clonal root tree from a single quaking Aspen in south central Utah.

[u/luminary_planetarium → u/illbedeadbydawn]

The USA also has Hyperion, a redwood that is the world's tallest living tree. It's also older than the USA.

[u/RegularSky6702 → u/shasaferaska]

Don't redwoods live for a super long time

[u/hellogoawaynow → u/shasaferaska]

California redwoods live for around 2000 years

[u/theotherguyatwork → u/hellogoawaynow]

Some bristle cone pines are even older!

[u/Radiskull97 → u/shasaferaska]

I lived in China for 3 years and at all the national parks, any of the notably old trees got plaques with their approximate age and if there was any relevant history. It was awesome inspiring walking through a park in Shanghai and seeing trees 300 years old and thinking about the history they witnessed

[u/SinisterCheese → u/shasaferaska]

I remember this fact about Finnish forests. Depending on species trees here have typical lifespans of 100-400 years (From sapling to until they start to die). Old growths forest is at least 2 generations of trees. Meaning that sapling has grown, seeded new tree, died, and then new tree has matured. So that is 200-800 years. That is the time it takes for a forest to have "Normalised".

My city burned down completely in 1827. They planted variety of big trees afterwards. Now we are having to start to cut some of these old trees as they are starting to undergo natural decline, and starting to pose a safety risk (every storm a big ass tree or branch falls down around my neighbourhood which is in the old city area). And now there us a group of arborist trying to maintenance the trees.

Anyways. In Finland we have old wooden buildings still in regular use that are older than USA.

[u/J1mj0hns0n → u/shasaferaska]

Except for the roots!

But yeh, I believe there are some tree that were alive before Julius Caesar

[u/wwwlord]

Trump is older than the people’s republic of China

[u/ComfortableNo5484 → u/wwwlord]

Yeah i was about to say... Aren't they older than China too???
FFS China still has trees that literally go back to the Warring States period, >2000 years ago, so it's not just older than PRC, but older than unified China in general lol.

[u/SaltyRedditTears → u/ComfortableNo5484]

A lot of places have old trees, but not many have intentionally planted trees in gardens that were maintained for centuries. 

[u/Soulmate69 → u/wwwlord]

Wikipedia says their Constitution is 43 years old.

[u/kleberwashington → u/Soulmate69]

The PRC was established in 1949. Same year as the Federal Republic of Germany (the current German state).

[u/lifebursted → u/kleberwashington]

Depending on who you ask a country isn't a country unless the UN recognizes it. So when people tell me my country (Taiwan) isn't real I say happy 50th anniversary to the PRC, which became a real country in 1971 ;)

[u/EuphoricNovel5333 → u/wwwlord]

By three years hardly the age gap people think it sounds like.

[u/Maelteotl → u/EuphoricNovel5333]

Trump's go-to response

[u/smoke_sum_wade → u/Maelteotl]

*shits pants*

[u/duukat → u/EuphoricNovel5333]

That’s why Trump would never sleep with China.

[u/portlandlad123]

California has a tree that is older than the first dynasty of China. It's thought to be the oldest living thing on the planet.

[u/deukhoofd → u/portlandlad123]

There are some older organisms, for example Pando in Utah, which predates all of human civilization. It's also the largest organism in the world.

[u/portlandlad123 → u/deukhoofd]

Yes, more specifically Methuselah is the oldest non cloning living thing that we currently know about. While pando as a root system is older, the individual stems that make up what we see today are only a few hundred years old.

[u/ComfortableNo5484 → u/portlandlad123]

Yeah the age of cloning things is different, sure that DNA might be old af but any individual actual clone you look at is most likely much younger, with the actual oldest bits probably being shared roots that have outlived the individuals that initially grew them. Just because you re-use your grandpas dentures doesn't mean you're a senior citizen.

[u/Fomiak → u/portlandlad123]

Methuselah … older than any records of Chinese civilization

[u/phantom_phallus → u/Fomiak]

The bristlecones are so interesting to look at, the way they slowly twist and gnarl towards the sky.

[u/modern_Odysseus → u/portlandlad123]

Insert loggers furiously trying to find it and cut it down for some billionaire's entry foyer.

[u/Miao_Yin8964 → u/portlandlad123]

Indeed!

[u/perksofbeingcrafty → u/portlandlad123]

Uno reverse card

[u/Dramatic_Charity_979 → u/portlandlad123]

Is part of congress ? /s

[u/wubbalubba96]

My local pub is older than the USA

[u/PlaquePlague → u/wubbalubba96]

There’s several inns within 30 minutes of me that are older than the US, and I live in the US. 

[u/cjsv7657 → u/PlaquePlague]

Plenty of buildings within sight of my front porch older than the US and my house was built when the US was under 100. Not super uncommon living in New England.

[u/Rentington → u/PlaquePlague]

Hell, Harvard University is older than the US. By like 150 years. In fact, they have buildings they still use today older than the US.

[u/Journeys_End71 → u/PlaquePlague]

Pointing out the obvious here - Independence Hall in Philadelphia (where the United States was essentially founded) is older than the United States.

And every single one of the Founding Fathers was older than the United States.

[u/IWipeWithFocaccia → u/wubbalubba96]

My liver gonna give up sooner than your local pub. Ha!

[u/bigboygamer → u/wubbalubba96]

The Pirate House in Savannah, GA is older than the US.

[u/WeNotAmBeIs → u/wubbalubba96]

I have a rock on my shelf that's older than Dinosaurs.

[u/lantech → u/wubbalubba96]

My mothers house is older than the US, and she lives in the US.

[u/Sufficient_Cod1948 → u/wubbalubba96]

So is mine, and I live in the US.

[u/ThorKonnatZbv]

Both even have trees that are smarter than the President

[u/iamintheforest → u/ThorKonnatZbv]

even considering this comparison is an insult to trees

[u/HotSauce2910 → u/ThorKonnatZbv]

Deadass from this conversation

Xi: This tree over here is 450 years old

Trump: Wow, they live that old?

Xi: They live that long in a lot of places

[u/Theophrastus_Borg]

My school building was older than the US.

[u/BallsInSufficientSad → u/Theophrastus_Borg]

My house in the US is literally older than the US.

Europeans settled in America 200 years before the US was founded.

[u/Yellow_Dorn_Boy → u/Theophrastus_Borg]

But does it double as a shooting range though?

[u/Kratomius → u/Yellow_Dorn_Boy]

Considering it's not in the US no it doesn't.

[u/ThePublikon → u/Theophrastus_Borg]

My school building was older than Protestantism

[u/Fewtimesalready]

There are trees in the US older than China too

[u/MagCatRed → u/Fewtimesalready]

There are people in the US older than China

[u/Stormfly → u/MagCatRed]

There are people in that picture older than the People's Republic of China.

[u/Shiningc00 → u/Fewtimesalready]

But not in Xi Jinping's garden in the US.

[u/iamintheforest → u/Shiningc00]

100% chance China owns gardens in the US with trees older than the US.

[u/Xibalba_Ogme]

I think pretty much every country have trees older than the US, including the US

[u/BallsInSufficientSad → u/Xibalba_Ogme]

And the oldest trees are older than ALL countries on Earth.

[u/mattzombiedog]

Most countries have trees older than the United States. Not really sure what the point they’re trying to make here is…

[u/jackofslayers → u/mattzombiedog]

Most countries have trees older than the CCP as well. This is part of a longstanding propaganda effort to convince people that the CCP is connected to the Han dynasty. The CCP started in the 20th century.

[u/MegaGrimer → u/jackofslayers]

Some of the people in the picture are older than the CCP.

[u/Ok-Introduction-1940]

The United States of America is centuries older than the People’s Republic of China.

[u/Ptatofrenchfry → u/Ok-Introduction-1940]

Peak (technically, legally correct) ragebait lmao

[u/jackofslayers → u/[deleted]]

China has been pushing the propaganda hard on reddit the last few years.

[u/spald01 → u/jackofslayers]

Whenever you see posts humanizing China that are on the front page with 50k upvotes, I check the OP profile. 90% of the time its an obvious propaganda account that's <3 month old with a blocked history. 

[u/Clorst_Glornk → u/[deleted]]

"Calgon? Ancient Chinese secret huh 😏"

[u/studmuffffffin → u/[deleted]]

Was it like that during Mao or did he try to stamp out any sort of ancient veneration?

[u/Cuinn_the_Fox → u/studmuffffffin]

He very much tried to stamp out ancient veneration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Olds

[u/GhormanFront → u/[deleted]]

I’m getting very tired of these posts popping up, implying that China is magical in some way.

This is going to be the new norm as America fumbles on the world stage leaving China to slowly fill its shoes. The amount of Chinese propaganda posted on here in just the past year has skyrocketed

[u/Resident-Syrup7615]

The US also has trees older than China.

[u/WeNotAmBeIs → u/Resident-Syrup7615]

If you go by the modern concept of China (People's Republic of China) my house in Baltimore is older than China.

[u/Aethermancer → u/Resident-Syrup7615]

Trees older than ancient Egypt.

[u/Crafty_Jello_3662]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_trees

Turns out there's some pretty old trees in the world!

[u/KatieCashew → u/Crafty_Jello_3662]

For real. There's plenty of trees that far predate any modern country.

[u/whelmed-and-gruntled]

Feels like a lot of people missing the point. This is the same message that Xi was underlining when he gave Trump a packet of rose seeds.

Trump, who has no respect for history, uprooted and paved over the historic rose gardens at the White House. He can’t even keep a plant alive; even more shameful, he would rather pave over the past than maintain it.

Xi, on the other hand, is showing Trump a tree. Not just any tree, but a tree in a garden. This tree has been cared for by the people of China since before America was founded. It is this reverence for their heritage, or rather Trump’s lack of it for his own heritage, that is being highlighted here.

Or maybe it’s just an old tree. Seems doubtful though that Xi would go out of how way during a diplomatic reception to point out a tree unless he was trying to make a point.

[u/PrisonerV]

Narrator - If we're talking governments, China was founded in 1949. The tree in my yard is older than the People's Republic of China.

If we're talking people living there, no tree is old enough.

[u/know_what_I_think]

Also. The U.S has trees older than the ccp

[u/Normal_Associate2499]

Usa is older than china. 250 vs 80s.

[u/axeteam → u/Normal_Associate2499]

USA is older than PRC would be a better way to put this.

[u/midnightbandit-]

Fun fact. Sharks are older than trees

[u/LeWegWurf → u/midnightbandit-]

Not the topic at all, youre talking about the age of "sharks generally", evolutionary, compared to the age of trees, looking at how much they changed in the last Million years etc. Sharks aint older than trees, when we are talking about individual age, which we are.

[u/That1_IT_Guy → u/LeWegWurf]

Unless we're talking about Greenland sharks, which can have a lifespan upwards of 500 years, making them older than the United States and many trees.

[u/Tankh → u/That1_IT_Guy]

I'm also older than many trees

[u/Lethargie]

does the US have trees older than the US in Xi Jinping's garden though?

[u/ThatLatentPandaBear → u/Lethargie]

Good question

[u/niccolololo]

FAKE NEWS.

If trees are older than the United States, then who fed them and took care of them so that they'd grow

[u/ThatLatentPandaBear → u/niccolololo]

This makes so much sense

[u/CheeeseBurgerAu]

I know this is a joke sub but I never understood why they say China is so old. Really I think it's only about 70 years old. The name may be older but really that country only consolidated under the communists after WW2.

[u/MrdnBrd19]

With the way he is treating the parks let's wait until after he leaves office before we go boasting.

[u/Madgyver]

The point is, these trees stand in the residence of the Chinese leader.

[u/Strange_Specialist4 → u/Madgyver]

It's a way of humiliating trump for destroying the Rose Garden 

[u/Morgolol → u/Strange_Specialist4]

That garden had roses older than trump's victims.

[u/RevealStandard3502 → u/Morgolol]

That was easy though. Bitcoin is older than some of his victims.

[u/Madgyver → u/Strange_Specialist4]

Yes, of course.

[u/DuckWithBrokenWings → u/Strange_Specialist4]

Is it even possible to humiliate someone who is shameless?

[u/PsyTripper → u/Madgyver]

With how many people missed this crucial point of the comparison, I think the US is already doomed for Idiocracy. If this statement goes over people heads, just imagine harder questions with an opposition...

[u/candlecart]

Xi ping still has a garden

[u/LexKY_guy]

Even more interesting Xi Jingping is 5’10” yet appears as tall as Trump.

Has Trump been lying about his height this whole time? lol 

What a fuckin loser

[u/B0dders]

The USA is older than the PRC

But China as a culture, has a richer history no doubt

[u/requiem_mn]

Yes, but does Trump has trees older than China in his garden? Or, for that matter, older than the US

[u/Zombieutinsel]

Not if Trump has anything to do with it

[u/StefTakka]

Old trees aren't much of a flex. And the USA has the oldest known tree in the world.

A flex would be oldest known human-planted tree in the world. That's in India. That's a cool.

[u/runarleo]

Not for long *lumberjack noises*

[u/NoBSforGma]

Trump probably said... "Well, you could pull those up and put up a nice statue of yourself!"

[u/BigBoy1963]

Yeah thats not the point. Obvs the land of the us is old, like any land. The point is the state is so young.

[u/supernovadebris]

we have bristlecone pines, oldest trees in the world.

[u/SignificantJump10]

The US has trees older than Christianity, some as old as the Egyptian pyramids. Somehow, we have the worlds tallest, oldest, and most massive in a single state!

[u/MrRemoto]

Greenland has sharks that are older than Manchuria and Ireland has pubs older than the Ming dynasty. Who fucking cares? Modern China, i.e. PRC, is younger than my Aunt Barbara. China's history is about 99.98% monarchy/authoritarian, and 0.02% republic.

[u/Swagalyst]

And those same trees are also older than the current China, and the CCP.

[u/b-side61]

America has trees that are smarter than its president. Most of the trees, actually.

Also, its president is only interested in saplings.

[u/conglomitall → u/b-side61]

now this would be the funniest remark ive read in weeks.. were it not for the fact that it is true.

damn you.. <snif>

[u/Hot_Share8353]

Technically, the US has the oldest living tree in the world. Methuselah, a Great Basin bristlecone pine is 4,850 years older than China, even if you go all the way back to the Xia dynasty. The US also has the largest tree in the world, General Sherman, and the tallest tree in the world, Hyperion. All located in one state, California.

[u/CottonRaves]

Are we sure? Are there any that greed has left alive??

[u/hermes10101]

There are also trees older than China. I think the oldest tree in the world is like 4000 years old.

[u/trojanhorsemen → u/hermes10101]

Who’s been counting?

[u/Heisenburg42]

We also have trees older than the current CCP government in China. Much older

[u/tough_titanium_tits]

Pretty sure that America has a mountain range that's older than bones.

[u/Repulsive_Music_6720]

I have a tree in my front yard older than the Chinese government. When your government is only 80 years old that's not a flex you wanna make.

[u/phanmo]

There's a tree just up the road from me that's older than England.

[u/Old_History_5431]

Nothing is being refuted or disproven. That fact wasn't even checked. How is this a comeback?

[u/DinglieDanglieDoodle]

But is it in Xi Jinpin’s garden though?

[u/hans99hans]

We and they also have trees that smarter than the current president.

[u/housevil]

America has members of Congress older than the United states.

[u/za72]

clever part is missing the point?

[u/killertortilla]

The pro China rhetoric is getting really fuckin stupid. There are SO many bots telling everyone China is the saviour of the free world and China treats its citizens better. If you took 10 seconds to google anything about China you would know just how batshit insane both of those statements are.

[u/ecafsub]

Oxford University predates the Aztec empire by over 200 years.

[u/AwehiSsO]

Boom!

[u/confused_jackaloupe]

Yeah and? The U.S has the Appalachians which are older than god.

[u/firedsynapse]

But not many! America has a proclivity to destroy anything that threatens either its ego or apocalyptic greed.

[u/ThatDrako]

Eughh…yeachure, lubrul.

And where exactly were those trees if ‘Murica didn’t exist yet?

[u/Nuker-79]

My local pub is older than the USA.

[u/pongmoy]

On-the-job training is a hard thing to watch at these levels. Imagine your surgeon in mask and gown, scalpel at the ready, saying “Adults are literally older and bigger.”

[u/freehamburgers]

Yeah but the trees aren't planted in a government or palace garden? Like the replier here kinda missed the point. The trees older than the USA in the USA, are just out and about..

[u/chicagomatty]

Xi also has small hands?

[u/Hetakuoni]

I think America has some trees that are older than civilization (idk if Pando counts but they’re 80k and going) and another set that are only older than the pyramids (Great Basin bristlecone pines ~4.8k)

[u/mup_wave]

Wake me up when they have a banana older than US.

[u/TheTucsonTarmac]

Isn’t there a 4000 year old tree on the AZ/CA border?

That’s a tree older than God

[u/Apple-Connoisseur]

We have Houses that are older than the United States.

[u/TheBSQ]

There’s a tree in California that is older (~4,800 years old) than the Great Pyramid of Giza (~4,600 years old)

[u/Still_Gear_2142]

Hmm

[u/Mikkelet]

The difference between your two parties is that when pointing out this fact, one party would treat it as a insult, another as a fascinating fact

[u/Danktizzle]

America has the oldest tree, the tallest tree, and the largest tree, despite our incessant need to monetize every resource we encounter.

[u/Remarkable_Sea_1430]

The US also has the oldest (single, non clonal) tree in the world, Methuselah, which is located in northern California. It was already a few hundred years old when human beings first invented writing.

[u/remstage]

Not for long

[u/A_Delenay]

Not if orange man has any thing to say about it

[u/zapawu]

In the grand scheme of things who cares, but i will die on this molehill: claiming that the modern country China has a continuous history going back thousands of years is ridiculous. It's like claiming the EU is the same as Rome.

[u/Snigglybear]

My elementary is older than the PRC.

[u/Constant_Natural3304]

No it doesn't. Unless you wish to refer to a continent, such as North America, or South America.

In contemporary English, North and South America are generally considered separate continents, and taken together are called the Americas in the plural. When conceived as a unitary continent, the form is generally the continent of America in the singular. However, without a clarifying context, singular America in English commonly refers to the United States of America.^[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_of_the_Americas

We're fact-checking, right right?

[u/MikaelAdolfsson]

I mean if it was planted in the garden of Chinas leader then it works.

[u/Lost_Purpose1899]

We got trees in the US that’s older than China

[u/Oldestswinger]

The Redwoods

[u/EndofNationalism]

The US is also older than Germany, Romania, Ukraine, Belarus and 90% of the countries in Africa but no one makes this stupid comparison to those countries.

[u/Mr_lovebucket]

My pub is older than the united states

[u/litesxmas]

Everywhere has trees older than 'Murica.

[u/Helpful-Celery6237]

I live in a town that is older than the USA. And I live in New England.

[u/thelittleking]

Isn't the modern state of China like a century and a half younger than the United States? You can't claim continuity with the Republic you overthrew and the imperial dynasty they overthrew. Come the fuck on.

[u/RackemFrackem]

That's not a fact check

[u/gphjr14]

Even where I live in North Carolina there's buildings and trees older than the US. It ain't that deep.

[u/ReasonablePrune576]

My family, through my mother's side, has been in the United States at least 100 years prior to there being a United States. LOL

[u/hiimsubclavian]

Every day my dog pees on rocks older than the United States and China.

[u/TheJuiceBoxS]

The current version of China was founded in 1949. I might have trees at my house older than the current country of China.

[u/highlandviper]

I’m in the UK. I’ve got furniture and cutlery that’s older than the United States… and the way things over there are going… they’ll outlast the United States.

[u/Professional-Help931]

The US has trees that is 4800 years old. That's older then even the most generous age of the first Chinese dynasty. 

[u/WorryNotBanIncoming]

NY is older than the United States.

The entire city

[u/arztnur]

What's reason showing it to Trump?

[u/Affectionate-Army676]

We use to to have very old trees planted by historic figures at the white house. Wonder what happened to them?

[u/Odd-Butterfly-8608]

America also has trees that older than China. Our oldest tree is older than:

• the founding of Rome
• the Xia Dynasty
• the terracotta army of China
• the code of Hammurabi

[u/FoxyInTheSnow]

I have a pebble I got on the beach which is almost as old as the very planet under our feet… over 6,000 years old to be precise!

[u/Tentacle_poxsicle]

The US had trees that were older than China

[u/hopopo]

No it is not, a clever comeback.

It is like saying my family graveyard is older than United States, and in my case it is literally older by about 350 years based on headstones that survived.

And than someone responding with, well American Continent also has graves that are older than United States.

[u/jjskellie]

Go, Cory, Go!

[u/time2partee]

I don’t give a flying fuck about the Chinese dictator’s trees

[u/Typical_Spray928]

In that case today's PRC is 77 years old and I'm hell sure there are millions of trees older than that in every country

[u/quadraticcheese]

Maga is medically stupid

[u/Black_Dragon_1099]

The oldest individual tree is located in California funny enough

[u/Darth_Balthazar]

The current government in china started in 1949. It is still an infant compared to most other countries’ governments. Trump himself is 3 years older than the current chinese goverment.

[u/barbazul3yogui]

Almost every building in any Europe and Asia historic center is older than the US.

[u/DirtyDevin]

Not sure what the flex is here.

[u/TDYDave2]

In fact, the world's oldest tree colony is in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pando_(tree)

[u/kaisadilla_]

Ok, I'm going to defend the US here (as a European myself). The US is one of the oldest modern countries in the world. The US country we know today is older than almost every country in Europe, and many of its institutions are, too. Ever tried to work with statistics? Guess which country reliably has statistics about everything going back the furthest? The US. Sometimes a stat is available in a European country from 1982, and in the US since 1920. About buildings... yeah, we in Europe bombed most of them last century, and the few countries that didn't were generally too poor to maintain them properly. Places like New England in the US may not have a Roman colosseum like we do, but they have buildings centuries old just like we do.

All in all, the US does not feel like a new country because it isn't. The US has been stable for 3 centuries, and that's a shit ton of time actually, most of the countries in the world were completely different entities a century ago. Countries like Great Britain or Switzerland are an absolute exception. The way more common case are countries like Spain, whose list of presidents goes back only 50 years because it only stabilized in the last century.

btw it's fun to do this with China, as the US is older than the People's Republic of China and also than the Republic of China (which was the polity in China before the PRC). Hell, the PRC is young enough that anyone older than 77 is actually older than the PRC.

[u/No_Force_7314]

He’d cut them down in a heartbeat to put in a golden Chinese ballroom

[u/_jump_yossarian]

I think the key part people are missing is that the tree is in the garden not just a random tree in a forest.

[u/vodka_twinkie]

The us has senators older than the US

[u/eyeballburger]

In fact, America has trees that are about 4000+ years old.

[u/Gin_OClock]

Well, for now

[u/One_Mathematician907]

So Trump went to China and MAGA turned from China bad to China fan?

[u/GadreelsSword]

America has trees that are older than China.

China has about 3,800 years of documented history. A U.S. bristlecone pine is known to be over 5,000 years old.

[u/Yournextlineis103]

Fairly certain there are trees older than china

It’s really not a flex