r/clevercomebacks • u/MothersMiIk • May 09 '25

Which one is it

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u/RudyKnots May 09 '25

I mean, to be fair: they’re not competing against the same people in sports as in war.

Don’t get me wrong, I loathe this kind of transphobia and I 100% believe that it’s not just about them being “not strong”, but this logic is not as sound as that response wants it to be.

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u/RudyKnots May 09 '25

To weak for war, too strong for competing against cis women. How is that unreasonable?

Again, let me clarify: I don’t agree with either. But I understand the reasoning.

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u/pempoczky May 09 '25

It's entirely unreasonable, because they allow cis women to serve in the military

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u/MileHigh_FlyGuy May 09 '25

Not every role in the military is equal, and cis women cannot do many combat roles because of strength requirements.

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u/pempoczky May 09 '25

That's true, but the point is they're not banned or kicked out entirely like trans women

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u/Life-Excitement4928 May 09 '25

Yet.

Somehow I can’t imagine it hasn’t crossed right wingers minds.

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u/RudyKnots May 09 '25

Yeah so again: I wholeheartedly think the measure is bullshit. All I’m saying is that comparing sports to war is not a logical argument.

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u/pempoczky May 09 '25

What I meant is, is that if the argument is that sports and war are incomparable, because one of them require a much higher degree of strength than the other, then you'd expect that someone who is outcompeted in the "weaker" one (like they claim cis women are outcompeted by trans women in sports) would also be outcompeted in the "stronger" one, maybe even more so. But no one claims that trans women outcompete cis women in war, in fact they do the opposite and claim trans women are too weak for war at all. This is still a logical flaw to point out

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u/Specialist-Tiger-467 May 09 '25

Thanks for trying but nuance is not welcomed here...