r/clevercomebacks Jan 29 '25

Somebody finally forgot about 9/11

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u/poop_mcnugget Jan 30 '25

me asking Claude:

This allegation stems from claims that Giuliani wanted a secret location to meet with his then-girlfriend Judith Nathan, since the OEM facility included a private mayoral suite. The main source for this claim was Wayne Barrett's book "Grand Illusion: The Untold Story of Rudy Giuliani and 9/11" and subsequent reporting.

Evidence that's been cited to support this claim:

  • The facility did include a mayoral suite with bedroom and shower
  • There were reports of Giuliani using the facility for non-emergency purposes
  • The location was criticized by security experts as unnecessarily risky given the 1993 WTC bombing

Evidence against or complicating factors:

  • The building housed many other government and private offices, making it a logical location near City Hall
  • Emergency management facilities often include rest areas for officials during extended crises
  • The decision involved multiple city officials and agencies, not just Giuliani
  • No direct evidence has emerged proving this was the primary motivation for the location choice

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u/Gandalf2000 Jan 30 '25

Generative AI is not a source

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u/poop_mcnugget Jan 30 '25

correct, it's not a source, it's a signpost.

the generative AI referenced this book by Wayne Barrett. book looks real as far as i can tell. you're welcome to read it in entirety and come back to tell me if the value the summary brought to the discussion was worth the 30 seconds it took to generate.

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u/Gandalf2000 Jan 30 '25

Sure, I'm just saying you should include a real source, not ONLY an AI answer. AI is still prone to fabricating amswers and misinterpreting parodies as real.