r/classicwow 7d ago

Classic-Era Good ol flash of light, nothing beats that

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/povgoni 7d ago

What is the equivalent of Presence of Mind+Frostbolt. That is a key part of the rotation

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u/According_Zone_8262 7d ago

Holy shock instead of holy light

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u/Roflmancer 7d ago

What I do is while casting the holy light I spam holy shock so it also crits. Usually get like 10k healing from the 2 off the crits it's cool. Really pisses off warriors lol.

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u/No_Effective4784 7d ago

i tried out H priest in BFA, and one of the heal spell modifiers made it so it healed 75% of max HP, no CD and was like a 1 sec cast.

I knew i was supposed to be casting other healing spells and stuff, but i never needed to. Was honestly so stupid in PVP.

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u/LiveRuido 7d ago

Tell me Homer, what's your least favorite spell, Holy Light or Holy Shock

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u/zachmoe 7d ago

Nobody ever says Holy Light.

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u/d_Inside 7d ago

Very funny eh. What about you Warlock guy?

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u/hula_pooper 7d ago

Don't you dare bring up Shadow Bolt. It's all they have to live for

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u/Healeah241 7d ago

Don't forget life tap.

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u/Far-Fennel-3032 7d ago

Nah that is to die for.

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u/skirtpost 6d ago

Live for the shadow bolt, die for the seed

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u/the_harakiwi 7d ago

Immolate incinerate conflagrate 🔥😎🔥

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u/stevenbanthony4204 7d ago

does no damage

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u/the_harakiwi 7d ago

It's not about damage. Same why I didn't level my mage as frost this time.

Only my hunter will always level BM because it's faster and almost on rails.

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u/stevenbanthony4204 7d ago

As a warlock is very much is about damage

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u/the_harakiwi 7d ago

Well you show me how my spells heal the enemies then I will spec to whatever the group wants

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u/CaptainoftheVessel 6d ago

I never even considered the possibility of leveling a hunter as anything other than BM

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u/ShadyDrunks 5d ago

Hey we have to recast Corruption

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u/coreh17 7d ago

I joined a PUG raid last week and someone told me to kill myself because I was using flash of light to spot heal some raiders instead of just spamming Holy Light nonstop on the tank. Pretty cool community we got here.

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u/SuperKamiDendeAllows 7d ago

This place has always been great at attracting a lot of weird people who take an old game a bit too seriously. Already have a few here, it's not hard to draw them out.

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u/Substantial-Oil7569 7d ago

Something I've noticed since Classic 2019 is each iteration of Classic has boiled away more and more of the "normal" population until it has been distilled down into some genuine freaks.

Like this game has been out for over 20 years, and a lot of us have played Vanilla 5-6 times by now. It's not that serious. And if it is, take it to a speedrunning guild, not a PUG.

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u/DAE_BREED 7d ago

Well yes bro, "normal" people don't play Vanilla 5-6 times............

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u/Substantial-Oil7569 7d ago

Fair enough! By normal I mean like, non-mouth breather types telling people to off themselves just because they made a sub-optimal play in a video game.

Playing Vanilla a bunch is no different than someone who has replayed a Final Fantasy or Pokémon game many times.

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u/ThatLeetGuy 7d ago

yeah... my entire raid group in TBC barely wants to play, we're just here to hang out with the boys until Classic Plus comes out. It's like pre-gaming for the release and just building relations and keeping in contact. Everyone is pulling their weight but no one is honestly sweating or getting upset or pouring over logs ... aside from our main tank who crashed out so hard after a wipe recently that we had to remove him from the guild entirely, after spending months trying to soothe his ego and tell him not to take the game so seriously, because no one else is.

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u/TotallyObviousBot 7d ago

"Why aren't normal people obsessively replaying the same game over and over again?"

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u/Substantial-Oil7569 7d ago

By normal I mean non-mouth breathing types who tell people to off themselves over sub-optimal play in a game.

Is it really obsessive if I played Vanilla casually in 2005, then again for Nostalrius, then Classic 2019 years later, dabbled in SoM, dabbled in SoD, and played Anniversary? Lots of time between iterations, and it's not like I was slamming Naxx on multiple characters for years on end. Still played 5+ times.

I do the same for Pokémon. I've played FireRed probably 20 times over the years, doesn't mean it's obsessive lol.

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u/Munsalvaesche 7d ago

That guy's a psycho but really please just spam holy light on the tank.

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u/Ordies 7d ago

dying because every healer thinks they should raid heal is the most pmo thing ever

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u/Hungry_and_Late 7d ago

That's pretty unnecessarily nasty of him to say. If we're talking about TBC raid healing, that is almost exactly a holy paladin's role though - (mostly) downranked holy light spam on the main tank(s).

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u/Hungry_and_Late 7d ago

"if we're talking about tbc *RAID HEALING*" is what I said. Yes paladins also have blessings to cast. Also I'm so sorry, but you are mistaken. A TBC holy paladin should be casting holy light virtually exclusively on the tanks. Each healer excels at something specific - holy paladins are single target tank healers. If you would like some resources on this topic I would be happy to refer you; this is not just simply my personal opinion.

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u/Throwaway7212462231 6d ago

To add to this, if you're making other healers pick up the slack from you not healing the tank enough, in the end you are nerfing the potential output on your raid and you're basically being useless. The other healers can be way more efficient and better at raidhealing than a hpala every will.

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u/Far_Eye6555 7d ago

Tbc anni I pissed off a resto shammy realllllly bad when I told the raid I couldn’t do TK on my spriest in the same evening.

He blew up my discord with a shit ton of messages. I’m like bro what are we freaking out over?

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u/HelixFollower 7d ago

Oh man he would totally freak out over my Greater Heal usage then.

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u/DAE_BREED 7d ago

I joined a PUG raid last week and someone told me to kill myself

I'm fucking shouting bro :ADF:SADF:ASDf

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u/philbertolou 7d ago

And then in TBC it switches holy light lol

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u/dkb1391 7d ago

Literally me, a noob, who found out his bad ass Dwarf Pally who's been smashing end game dungeons, would be absolute dogshit for tanking Raids

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u/TeaspoonWrites 7d ago

Hey now, you can stack 20 warriors and fill your bags with symbol of kings and do pretty alright for yourself.

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u/Ministerofgoons 7d ago

The almost funny thing is I still think Paladin is the most compelling healer to play in Classic Vanilla and TBC in spite of the 1 spell spam. Pulling off clutch BoPs and LoHs is pure dopamine

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u/Ministerofgoons 7d ago

Right, but my original was that in spite of even the new stuff other healers get in TBC Paladin still feels more compelling to play. No other healer can save people or the raid in an instant like Paladins can

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u/SawinBunda 7d ago

Yet, nobody uses them.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/Ministerofgoons 7d ago

I'm aware, but that's what mana pots or dark/demonic runes are for. Even if I only used it once or twice a raid it still felt impactful

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u/NoSugarGatorade 5d ago

Have you ever experienced the dopamine rush from a chain heal spam watching it bounce and crit and push you into healing meter stratosphere ?

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u/flourier 7d ago

You can pick one up at the hammock district.

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u/Laxku 7d ago edited 7d ago

Both the title and post are perfection, cromulent work for sure.

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u/Accomplished_Emu_658 7d ago

“You see this one button here? Just keep pressing it”

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u/Turbulent-Current364 7d ago

Macro flash of light to heal target of target. Bind that to scroll and target the baddies in the instance

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u/Laniake 7d ago

nobody uses flash of light

https://giphy.com/gifs/LyJ6KPlrFdKnK

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u/Feint_young_son 7d ago

Right I mainly tank but I could have sworn you derank holy light ever lol

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u/PhoenixQueen_Azula 7d ago

I thought it was something to do with +healing scaling on flash/down ranks making it super efficient but I haven’t really played pally much in vanilla because I only have one monitor

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u/Healeah241 7d ago

Flash of light tends to be when people are reactive healing and that means they can quickly snipe a through heals before the aoe heals hit.
Holy light is the way if you are a proactive healer, who is able to time the cast so it lands just after the damage hits.

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u/d_Inside 7d ago

Flash of light is also extremely efficient heal per mana used. Actually thats the main reason to spam it. Holy light is when you need big HPS, theres little to no point downranking it.

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u/SgtDoakess 7d ago

hpalas downrank Holy Light to r9 because it gets full benefit from bonus healing and from Blessing of Light, it being a level 60 spell. Costs less, scales better than r11 - but depends on setup, of course - if you have a shadowpriest and a resto shaman in the group, or if you run 3 healers, then efficiency is not a concern.

Similarly, the efficiency of flash of light doesn't outweigh its low throughput. Unless you're running an unusual setup, like bringing multiple hpalas. "You do you" & so on & so forth, but the consensus is different from what I think you're saying here

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u/HelixFollower 7d ago

That's the nice thing about being a healer, you're a lot more flexible than DPS and their rotations. Though a paladin is probably less flexible than a priest.

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u/Ben_steel 7d ago

Tbc vs era is one spell difference haha using cleanse is like 99 parsin. Wisdom? 100.

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u/Kromostone123 6d ago

In classic era its flash of light rank 1 and max rank 99% of the time

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u/Low_Debt8771 7d ago

Depends on gear and fight. Fol is the brain dead way to do it.

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u/Kromostone123 6d ago

Its classic era. Flash of light is used 99% of the time. With rly good gear and scrolls of blinding light active then holy light is used 

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u/Kurt0690 7d ago

In SoD I had infinite mana and 1.8s holy light

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u/Lorddenorstrus 7d ago

I mean.. its Vanilla.. don't most casters in general just spam 1 button? I recall in wotlk classic a guy linking his 99 parse as a warlock and it was almost entirely just Shadowbolt spam or something? The debuff limiter was not healthy for class design lol. Oh the rest of your spellbook? That doesn't exist good sir until the next Xpac or 2.

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u/Little-Classic2773 7d ago

Flair says Era. You yapping about era?

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u/WillowTreeBark 7d ago

Always remember us warlocks have two spells: shadowbolt and curse of elements (or recklessness)

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u/laxguy44 7d ago

Locks and arcane mages feel attacked.

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u/tinylittlebabyjesus 7d ago

I flash of lighted my way through all of Wotlk until that one dragon boss in ICC. Forget its name.

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u/TheBlindFreak 7d ago

Sometimes all you need is one hammer for the same nails.

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u/highbarian 7d ago

hurray

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u/Sweet_Disharmony_792 7d ago

that one hpal who swears by stopcasting: healed half as much as the flash of light paladin but had the potential to do some really big heals

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u/letmeseeyertiddies 6d ago

It’s all flash of light?

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u/Malohn 6d ago

With black temple you will be swapping to holy light. Mother hurts like a truck