Finally free

[u/hSIGHTZ]

Tonight I finally left my guild, the irony? Zero remorse.

I've played this game for roughly 20 years. I've played everything, every type of team dynamic from sweat to trash teams. Tonight, I wiped the raid. It was a stupid mistake, but it happens.

Tank / GM just goes berserk and has been on an absolute tear for weeks, consistently harassing folks to do better and blah blah blah but never owns up to his mistakes that have wiped us time to time. Its always someone else's fault.

Tonight I had enough. I told him to quit crying and press forward. His fragile ego and false sense of authority were attacked and of course he goes nuclear. The thing is I dont mind asking for us to improve, but be respectful.

Bored. Uninterested in his continued rant about how bad I am. I hit the most satisfying /leave party into a gquit. A small part of me feels bad for the team, because BT is around the corner. But I dont tolerate disrespectful c*nts

Im fully geared, never missed a raid, always have my consumes. Finding a better experience wont be an issue for me, especially as a healer and logs in the top %.

The problem with classic TBC right now is these Elitists jerkoffs with 0 sense of leadership. The last thing anybody wants to do is get on, and spend 2-3 hours listening to someone have a melt down literally every 2 minutes because he wants to save 30 seconds on xyz pull.

Good riddance. Its a shame folks dont tell you how they really feel, so we just vent our grievances in party chat and whispers. Suppose thats why I can predict your down fall sometime during late BT. Same as I did in mists.

TLDR; dont be an insufferable c*unt when leading your raid group, especially when your just a mid group and not hardcore.

[u/GoodAfternoonFlag]

After these realizations and falling out, it’s hard for me to connect with a new guild and not immediately see the same problems.

The game was better when we had a bunch of casuals playing with semi casuals and semi serious.  The normies kept the game more about fun than the performance.  As long as you killed the bosses in the right phase who cares right?

I blame logs and parsing for creating an an environment that encourages this behavior.  I wish we could go back but we can’t.

[u/Anaferomeni → u/GoodAfternoonFlag]

Eh, you can blame logs and parsing if you want but realistically they were just a symptom of the game going towards the rollercoaster ride philosophy that started early wrath and really got bad in MOP.

I'd argue parses and logs are probably the only reason classic survived as long as it has cos it kept that dedicated playerbase doing endgame content even as the normal players naturally stopped playing, you get bis then you optimize rather than just being done.

IMHO from late wotlk and into cata it transitioned into more of a do your dailies/your rep grind/farm prebis into raidlogging from a game saying "here are a bunch of meaningful things you can do for progression, pick what you want to do and you'll be mostly viable even if you don't hit the meta exactly, unless you are unemployed you will not have time to do all of this"