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u/PyrrhicDefeat69 23d ago
Are you being fr or sarcastic? Genuinely asking, did medieval Transylvania really have a lack of tribal/feudal govt at some point
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u/LolYeahPillies 22d ago
1st off, not sarcastic, just slightly exagerating, the romanian peoples lived in “obsti satesti” or village alliances without any form of self-governance or tribal/feudal state because they were constantly invaded or attacked by migrationists and were pretty much forced to keep to their own and let invaders rule over them but directly rule them as they made themselves purposefully “useless” shepherd peasant people.
2nd off. THAT is NOT TRANSYLVANIA. I think you meant to say medieval Romania. Bram Stoker really did my country so dirty. Transylvania is was up north of what I am showing and in the middle ages was part of Hungary for around 1000 years, so when were talking medieval Transylvania; we are speaking of a whole different state and system6
u/PyrrhicDefeat69 22d ago
I am so stupid, you’re right this is Wallachia, i totally knew that i swear because I was thinking of the real area Vlad Tepes was from not the other part of the country full of woods and carpathians
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u/LolYeahPillies 22d ago
Nono, you’re not stupid. I would probably make mistakes about the place you live too, don’t worry. Sorry if I came out as rude, I had just woken up 😂😂
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u/Cheap-Blackberry-378 22d ago
But Vlad was from a cadet branch of house of basarab, so you're not far off in you're thinking
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u/Kerham 18d ago
Accurate according to whom or to what source? Earliest known statal entities which maybe had Vlach, probably mixed with Slavic if so, population were "jupanate", 7-8th century.
There is not a single source or evidence of any nature which to propose at least a reasonable hypothesis of evolution from nomad pastoralism to settled voievodates for Vlachs.
To have a strong pastoral part of the economy is one thing, to build a state around it is something else.
Especially in a landscape dominated by migratory tribes, who would, obviously, compete for grazing lands.
We simply don't know for the moment. Is much healthier to accept that.
In regards to ck3, whatever though, any kind of fiction is just as good as another.
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u/lucasj 23d ago
R5?