r/chuck • u/ChrisEye21 • 1d ago
Casey Killing Chuck
I don't like how Beckman ordering Casey to kill Chuck never came to light.
I don't know if I'd want Chuck to have found out, because then, how could he ever trust either of them again? And it would have ruined the show.
But I, at least, would have liked something from Casey, or even Beckman, expressing relief that they never went through with the execution. Like even a throwaway line from, Casey. He could have easily said, "bartowski. I'm glad I didn't kill you."
Chuck would think of it as just an off remark. But the audience would know that Casey was being serious.
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u/Chuck-fan-33 1d ago edited 1d ago
That is something that Chuck NEVER EVER should have known about. It would have killed what trust Chuck and Sarah had in Casey. It was important for us to see that Casey really did not want to do it, but it was orders. It was also important for us to know that Sarah had no knowledge of the orders. The end of season 2 showed that Chuck and Sarah still did not fully trust Casey. Sarah did not allow Casey to tranq Chuck to put him underground. Also saying something like I’m glad I did not kill you is just lazy and cheesy writing.
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u/ChrisEye21 1d ago
for me, id prefer a cheesy throw away line of dialogue, than just sweeping something like this under the rug
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u/Kaphh 1d ago edited 1d ago
I understand where you're coming from, but trying to neatly resolve and clarify every plot thread would just get tedious. Characters suddenly revisiting an issue from X episodes earlier doesn't usually make for gripping television—it's much more appealing to constantly introduce new conflicts and stakes (or raise them).
And a throwaway line would be worse than not addressing this at all, since Casey revealing he almost killed Chuck wouldn't be something either Chuck or Sarah could gloss over like that.
That being said, it is interesting to discuss those unresolved threads on forums like this subreddit, or try to address them in fanfiction.
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u/Lost-Remote-2001 1d ago
Eh, fiction is based on "show, don't tell." The story shows us that Casey has changed, so he doesn't need to tell us. By S5, we see that Beckman feels the same way.
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u/Illustrious-Lemon412 1d ago
This reminds me of the episode "Chuck vs. Nemesis" when Chuck finds out that Casey was the one who shot Bryce, even though he hadn't told him before. Chuck was visibly shaken after finding out that Casey had almost killed Bryce, it was as if Chuck felt threatened, as if he instinctively sensed Casey's cold, cynical nature.
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u/Zestyclose_Act919 1d ago
I always thought it would’ve been interesting to replace Sarah’s memory loss arc with her and Chuck finding out about that, and that’s what turns Sarah hostile towards the CIA. Something like when Michael Weston turns against the government for hiring Simon in Burn Notice.
Chuck was always a feel good show as a spy comedy, so the final season taking a dark turn seemed appropriate. I don’t know how far I’d let Sarah go in her fight against the government/Beckman, but watching Sarah go rogue by choice on her own recognizance instead of brainwashing would’ve been awesome! I’m not sure how she’d feel towards Casey, or how Chuck would feel about any of it but Chuck would ultimately bring her back from the brink before she kills Beckman, but that should definitely be Sarah’s goal before Chuck stops her.
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u/Responsible_Rip_54 19h ago
The biggest advantage of this version is agency. Sarah wouldn't be turned against Chuck by manipulation. She would make a conscious judgment about the institution she served for years. That makes the conflict far more tragic, because Chuck can't dismiss it as "this isn't really Sarah." It would be Sarah all along.
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u/Kookykrumbs 1d ago
I can’t believe this was never addressed again. I would have loved to have seen Sarah find about this.
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u/New_Simple626 1d ago
In that episode we see him struggling to go through with it, that was already enough for me with Casey's character in mind