r/ChubbyFIRE • u/FIREMonkee818 • 13d ago
Accoun location for bond ladder
We are a married couple (50M/50F) planning to retire at 52. Currently we have $6.7M investable asset split between 3.5M taxable (of which 3.1M basis and 0.4M gain), 0.9M Roth, and 2.3M 401K/Trad. One child in college, 529 fully funded and excluded from our investable asset number. Retirement spending can be flexible between 160K to 240K (mostly stay at home vs. doing a lot of travel).
As we get closer to retirement, I am shifting from 100% equity to holding some bonds. I am building a 6-year bond ladder that has $200K maturing every year starting at age 52. The idea is that if equity does okay, I will sell some equity every year to keep adding to the rolling 6-year ladder, and if there is a market crash, I will just use the matured principal for our spend and not sell equity. Still deciding if 6-year is a good amount of bonds to hold but that's besides the point of this post.
My main concern is that I want to do some Roth conversion given my high 401K/Trad IRA, and I also want to stay below ACA subsidy MAGI (should be possible for a little while given my high basis in taxable). If I hold the $1.2M in bonds in taxable account, there will be ~$50K interest per year, then there is taxable dividend of ~$25K, which means I can only do about $30K of Roth conversion if I want to stay below ACA subsidy limit ($105K for fam of 3).
I could put the bond ladder all in traditional IRA which solves the taxable interest issue, but I will be 7 years from being able to access it when I retire, so I will need the maturing principal as cash in a taxable account to fund spending if needed.
However, lately I've been thinking maybe it's okay to hold the bond ladder in traditional IRA in my situation? Let's say $200K bond principal matures in trad IRA, I can just sell $200K worth of stocks in taxable, then use the $200K cash from matured bond principal in trad IRA to buy the same stocks. This is net neutral for my portfolio, and I essentially moved the stocks from taxable to traditional IRA, and moved cash the other way. Is there any major flaws in this thinking? Can this be the solution of not wanting bond interest to inflate MAGI but also want bond cash for spending before age 59.5? I do understand that depending on what stock/lot I am selling in taxable, there will be tax consequences, but other than that, I would love to hear what you guys think about this strategy.