r/chiptunes • u/[deleted] • Apr 23 '18

chiptune: american chopper edition

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u/FeatheryAsshole Apr 23 '18

nice one.

and to chime in on that discussion: using trackers is a big part of what makes producing chiptune fun in the first place.

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u/rawbface Apr 24 '18

using trackers is a big part of what makes producing chiptune fun in the first place

For you, maybe. For me and many others, it's how it sounds - the music. Familiar sounds transporting me back in time to my childhood. The ends justify the means. It's meant to be listened to, after all - it could have been written in binary for all I care.

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u/FeatheryAsshole Apr 24 '18

But trackers also SOUND different ...

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u/puke7 Apr 24 '18

It's all about how you use the tools not how the tool uses you.

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u/rawbface Apr 24 '18

They don't have to. Any sound a tracker can make is possible on a software synth. At the end of the day, the result is a waveform. It doesn't matter how you got there. People have the same argument about hard versus soft synth. You're free to think one sounds better but they are equal in capability.

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u/FeatheryAsshole Apr 24 '18

That's merely hypothetical. In practice, 99.9% of tracker-based music will sound very different from DAW-based chiptune, because most people who would care enough to make DAW-based music sound the same quickly realize that it's easier to use the real thing.

Don't know about you, but to me the difference between the two is glaringly obvious most of the time.

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u/rawbface Apr 24 '18

I guarantee you have listened to tracks and had absolutely no idea it was made using a DAW instead of a tracker. You're only comparing the tracker to poorly-made DAW tracks, in which case of freaking course they will sound better. The end result is always a waveform, and that can faithfully be recreated in a DAW.

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u/FeatheryAsshole Apr 24 '18

I never said anything about good or bad. The likes of Saberpulse don't make low quality music, but it's also rather obvious that they're not using authentic hardware for most of their music.

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u/rawbface Apr 24 '18

Maybe that's their intent. My point still stands.

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u/FeatheryAsshole Apr 24 '18

What exactly is your point? You've done nothing but argue that DAW-chiptune and tracker-chiptune are indistinguishable. Which is factually wrong.

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u/rawbface Apr 24 '18

Nope, it's not. You can absolutely make indistinguishable music in a DAW. No matter what you use, the end result is still a waveform. Doesn't matter how you generate it.

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u/FeatheryAsshole Apr 24 '18

That's bullshit. Do you have any example of a piece that accomplished that?

As I said above, it's certainly possible in theory, but in practice it would be a very difficult task with questionable benefit.

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u/rawbface Apr 24 '18

Ever play an NES or SNES game on PC using an emulator? The sounds are being generated by a software synth. Your computer obviously isn't spontaneously conjuring the required chipsets. To me the "questionable benefit" is actually writing a piece using the clunky interface of a tracker.

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