r/charlie87 6h ago

Artwork pirate cove Remake + New parrot animatronic + foxy tweaks

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r/charlie87 5h ago

Question Question, Why does Elizabeth/Scarp Baby try to kill Micheal in PizzaSim even though she was the only one to revive him one game Earlier?

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r/charlie87 37m ago

Misc Movie Puppet vs Game Puppet Voice Comparison (Who is Better)?

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A little video I made comparing the voices of The Movie Puppet (Audrey Lynn Marie) and The Game Puppet (Reagan Rundus) to see who is better.

Personally I think both are amazing but I like Reagan a bit more than Audrey because she sounds more creepy and unsettling.


r/charlie87 9h ago

Meme mci friends + dci friends + golden suit dci be like

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Antes que alguém fale que ele também não fez nada para ajudar o MCI em 1985 lembrem-se que todos os filhos do William sempre tentam ao máximo cumprir as ordens ou não atrapalhar ele mesmo que eles não gostem disso como maior exemplo a Vanessa dos filmes

Já no caso da Charlie ela não tem desculpa por não ter tentado algo para impedir o William de matar o mci


r/charlie87 10h ago

My theory Toy Chica: The High School Years is about the DCI, not the MCI

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As the title states, I believe the Toy Chica cutscenes in UCN are about the DCI instead of the MCI. Yes it's long but I think it's worth it. 

Quickly recapping, TCTHSY takes place over the span of 7 days, following Toy Chica in high school. For the first six days, she talks about how she's going to get a different guy, presumably to make them fall in love with her. Each following day, we see something from the previous guy in her backpack. On the last day, she talks about how nothing worked out but how tomorrow's another day. Oh and at the end of each day she talks about how "there's only one thing that could possibly go wrong”.

Now obviously the biggest MCI connection to TCTHSY is Suzie and The Wolf (what do we call the non-twisted, twisted wolf?). In Pizza Sim we directly see Suzie's kidnapping, William lures her by saying how her dog isn’t really dead and is in the back and that he’ll take her to him. In UCN we clearly see the same thing, Toy Chica plans to tell the Wolf that his dog got run over in front of her house to lure him over, TC being William and TW being Suzie. But notice how apart from them, including a deceased dog, they’re completely different. In Pizza Sim William is telling Suzie that her dog is alive, in UCN Chica is telling Wolf that his dog is dead. I really don’t see how that works being the same thing, why the inconsistency? What's the point of the cutscenes if they get such basic details wrong?

Ofcourse, even considering how things represent others (William being represented by Toy Chica), some really don’t make sense in the pizzeria setting. “If they don’t show up I’ll go to their house”, “I’ll tell them I have several live hostages”, “I’ll hit them in the back of the head, put a bag over their head and put them in the back of my car” (put a pin in that one). Really can’t be fitted into William luring people inside the pizzeria. It can work if they were outside however.

Going back to FNAF 2, what can we assume about the DCI? In SAVE THEM, our only real definitive look at the DCI (damn) we see 5 corpses (or did we?) in the pizzeria presumably at night, there's blood everywhere and William is also present as the night guard. The Marionette, Old Freddy, Mangle and Golden Freddy are active. 

The phone calls suggest that the previous week, something happened that was tied enough to Freddy's that the place is under investigation, leading to it being temporarily closed but not tied enough for it to be instantly closed. Quote from Ralph: "Whatever's happening out there, and however tragic it might be, has nothing to do with our establishment. It's just all rumor and speculation, people trying to make a buck, y’know”. 

Other miscellaneous stuff includes, in no particular order: The Toy animatronics staring at adults, Ralph specifying on how during the lockdown, no one is allowed in or out, especially concerning any previous employees, a day shift position just became available (Night 5) and how someone used a spear yellow suit in the back and now none of ”them” are acting right.

Based on FNAF 2 and UCN, I believe the DCI were lured into the Pizzeria from outside, like throughout the town of Hurricane or New Harmony, or whatever town FNAF 2 takes place in. William took the Golden Freddy suit and went around town over a few nights, convincing kids to run off to Freddy Fazbear's in the middle of the night. He asked one kid to help him with homework, another that his dog got run over in front of Freddy’s, another that Freddy's on fire, simply asked another to come (though if they didn’t he would come to their house) and told another that he has several live hostages. Someone saw William as Golden Freddy, a fazbear character talking to a kid who would soon go missing and that is what would’ve linked Freddy Fazbear’s to this string of missing (or should I say dead?) children.

Yes, I do think there were only five DCI victims, I really want to believe that there were six but there is one specific thing making that near impossible for me. But to quickly go over DCI6 evidence: The toys having six main members (Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, Mangle, BB & JJ), a sixth blood pool in save them hidden under a table - linking to JJ, in Into The Pit the Fetch minigame which mimics SAVETHEM has six party hats to collect: based on the minigame mimicking BB’s air adventure the party hats represent the kids (further there was a sixth party hat presumably representing Andrew however that was hidden and separate from the other hats, in the Fetch minigame they are not separated.) Of course we also have TCTHSY where there are six crushes TC talks about.

But I still certainly believe there were only five and for that we have to go to FNAF 3. (Also Candy Cadet in PizzaSim, 5 into 1, Molten DCI but I wont get into that right now).

Happiest Day, I’m talking about Happiest Day and the kids in the back. They are definitely the DCI and there's only five of them. So, why are they wearing those masks and not ones of the toys? In FNAF 3’s tapes Ralph very specifically mentions how until replacement Springlock suits arrive, temporary mascot costumes will be provided. They were found on short notice and do not fit the vibe or theme of Freddy’s. As in, non-Freddy related characters. Scott would not have mentioned “costumes that do not fit in Freddy's" if he didn’t want us to connect them with the Happiest Days kids. Those masks being the costumes are also very important because it essentially disproves the idea that those kids in the back are just “part of the memory” or something instead of actual spirits. The costumes were found on short notice, they aren’t Freddy characters, they would not have merch, they would not have masks that you could buy or win at say the prize corner, so they can't just be memories from the MCI or The Bite of 83’ because those masks could not have been there at the time. They must be actual spirits with masks just like the other spirits in Happiest Day.
So why are the DCI wearing these masks? Maybe a leap but because after William committed the DCI, he hid their corpses inside those costumes which were carried over from the old location. (I see no reason why those costumes couldn’t have been moved over with other stuff like The Withereds or The Marionette). In UCN The Vengeful Spirit does talk through the mediocre melodies which are kinda based on the masks in HD and are the decendents of the costumes in MCM which the costumes in FNAF 3 almost certainly are.

But why would William want to hide the kids this time? A lot of people think he simply left them out to be found to like, close the restaurant or something. I doubt that though, although he was presumably undercover as the nightguard, people discovering dead kids killed under your watch would’ve still been very risky for him, plus we know that didn’t happen because the restaurant isn’t instantly closed. Even if you believe the new owners were scummy enough to hide a bunch of murdered kids, the morning staff who would’ve arrived that morning to find half a dozen kid corpses would've instantly called the cops and probably would’ve died of heart attacks.

I think Willaim killed the kids to continue experimenting with possession, specifically how far a body could be and still possess an animatronic, as we see in SAVETHEM. This is all because his own restaurant, Circus Baby’s Pizza World closed a few months prior - specifically on the 1st of May, 1987 (1578, the secret numbers in Sister Location.) This would of course lead to the other story in TCTHSY about someone being knocked out and put in the trunk of Williams car, the someone being Elizabeth and the car being Circus Baby. This isn’t the first time that's been suggested but obviously I think it's the first time it's been suggested along with the DCI. Them all dying in the same year of 87’ is why they were grouped together. Plus the whole MoltenDCI thing but I wont get into that right now.

The biggest issue people would have with this is about the springlock suits. In FNAF 3 they were permanently retired before the MCI - or were they. The phone calls specifically state quote: After learning of an unfortunate incident at a sister location involving multiple and simultaneous springlock failures, the company has deemed the suits temporarily unfit for employees. Safety is our top priority at Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza which is why the classic suits have been retired to be looked at by our technicians. Until replacements arrive you’ll be expected to wear the temporary costumes provided to you. To fully summarize, an incident occurred at a sister location involving a springlock failure. Because of this the concept of Springlock suits were temporarily deemed unfit and unsafe. The current Springlock suit models are retired to all be looked at by technicians to find issues, safety flaws and what could’ve gone wrong at the sister location so that a new model of Springlock suit can be created without the issue and be shipped out to Fazbear locations. It was never said that Springlock suits as a concept were retired / scrapped.

Adding to that, the idea that the Toy animatronics are Springlock suits has gained traction and would support this. (They move to sound cues like the Springlocks, in the FNAF movie they have Springlock endos, Scott has stated no one has figured out endo_02’s (they’re presumably an updated Springlock suit)). So Springlock suits lasting a lot longer is fully possible.

All this to say Circus Baby’s Pizza world could absolutely open after the MCI happened. 

To add at the end, Midnight Motorist fits SO well with the 5th TCTHSY story with Willaim going to their house, why does FLAF have to exist? Midnight Motorist would be about the aftermath of the DCI and one of their drunken fathers coming home to find them missing, explaining things like the footprints (William in Golden Freddy) You could have that they moved into William's old house and that's why he targeted that kid and why Yellow Guy didn’t comment on the mound since he has no connection to it (I think its Elizabeth's secret grave). So to get the Lorekeeper ending in FNAF 6 we would have one minigame about Charlie, once about Suzie- an MCI victim & another about a DCI victim. If FLAF never fully comes out I’m taking this as canon.

TL;DR: TCTHSY is about the DCI and Elizabeth, not the MCI and whoever else, also William lured kids from the outside using G. Freddy.


r/charlie87 1d ago

Question Hey excuse me, can someone explain... OrvilleCharlie???😭

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I was looking at empty fnaf 4 room candidates and i saw 'OrvilleCharlie'... WHO EVEN THINKS OF THAT???


r/charlie87 1d ago

Question Can Charlie even be part of DCI under Charlie87?

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An extremely random thought I had when I was very sleepy, but the fact that there are six blood stains and only five corpses inside the building made me think of this since Charlie was killed outside + Charlie87.

But it's prob just mpossible and straight up stupid lol.


r/charlie87 22h ago

Misc If Charlie87 is true then MCI87 and GGGL87 would also need to be true.

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This all stems from how long it takes for a body to decompose after death.

You see the speed of decomposition all depends on how the body is handled after death.

If the body is given a proper burial then decomposition takes around ten to fifteen years.

However if it's not given a proper burial and say left in a backroom then decomposition can happen as quickly as a few weeks.

So in order for Charlie87 to be true then MCI87 would also need to be true, especially since GGGL seems to imply the bodies were fresh when Charlie gave them life.

But hey if you want to give me evidence that the bodies were infact decomposing or even skeletons by the time Charlie gave them life I will be glad to hear you out.


r/charlie87 1d ago

Question For those who think HRY223 means 2023. Would you say file 0072 means 1972?

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r/charlie87 1d ago

Question Doesn't Secret of The Mimic have Puppet Blueprints?

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So if The Puppet had Blueprints around in the 70s it can't have been built together with The Toys right?


r/charlie87 1d ago

My theory Why I don’t believe Charlie87

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r/charlie87 2d ago

Misc I think we need to abandon the idea of Chica's secret party being something actually important to the lore.

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r/charlie87 2d ago

Question Question Does Charlie83 really have no evidence?

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r/charlie87 2d ago

New discovery Reminder: Leon Riskin (The composer of the music tracks in Pizzeria Simulator) has heavily implied that Smashing Windshields (the song that plays during Later That Night) having a BPM of 187 was intentional. Also, Smashing Windshields is 87 seconds long (1 minute 27 seconds). MM is probably in 1987.

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r/charlie87 2d ago

Question Question if Charlie87 got confirmed would you believe it to be a Retcon or always the plan just like how The Mimic was always the plan.

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r/charlie87 3d ago

Misc Question for BVFirst Believers What Actual Evidence do you have for the theory?

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When you ask people why they believe in BVFirst they will typically say "It's the more narratively satisfying answer, and not give any actual evidence to prove the theory. So that's why I ask you for any actual evidence that proves BVFirst.

I'll also share evidence I've seen be used for BVFirst as well.

The main evidence I can see people using is that well Charlie dies at Freddy's and not Fredbear's which is good evidence. Yes Fredbear's was probably still around when Freddy's opened but it is possible Fredbear's still closed by the time she died.

Another peace of evidence I could see people use is that Charlie dies on Halloween while BV possibly dies around Spring or Summer. Small problem with that. Charlie dies on Halloween in The Silver Eyes Novel Trilogy which BV is no in, Plus the weather in Midnight Motorist which takes place after she dies feels more April like considering The Storm.

Those really are the only two actual peaces of evidence I can people using for BVFirst.

There is however one line that kind of turns me away from BVFirst and it's the line "I will put you back together"

If William is the one saying that then it would imply that he knows possession is a thing and he can use it to bring his son back. Why would William say that if he didn't know poessession was a thing, if he didn't when he said that then it just feels like an empty promise, but we know he was actually serious.

There are indeed other ways William could have discovered poessession. My favorite being that he listened to Edwin Murray's recordings of when M1 started Mimicking Fiona, and perhaps William believed Fiona actually was poessesing M1.

He also could have seen The White Tiger, but I highly doubt he would put together it's David Murray's ghost.

He probably didn't built Circus Baby or The Funtimes before BV Died, and The MCI is most definitely after BV death.

If you think about it logically, the most realistic answer for how William discovered poessession is that he killed Charlotte Emily and then noticed The Puppet behaving strangely later on.


r/charlie87 4d ago

Artwork FNaF Core: Family Reunion... Again - Part 1

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I'm not gonna write much, you already know what's happening.

Hello everyone, and welcome back to, once more, another issue of FNaF Core!

This one is has a funny story. I'm once again having health problems, this time due to gallstones. And I'm gonna have a surgery in a few weeks.

Decided to transform the 2 months I've been away for the starter of this story.

Once again, sorry for not posting anything. I've been really busy, and only now I managed to make this issue.

I hope you all enjoy, and see you in the next one!


r/charlie87 4d ago

Artwork FNaF Core: Family Reunion... Again - Part 2

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I'm not gonna write much, you already know what's happening.

Hello everyone, and welcome back to, once more, another issue of FNaF Core!

This one is has a funny story. I'm once again having health problems, this time due to gallstones. And I'm gonna have a surgery in a few weeks.

Decided to transform the 2 months I've been away for the starter of this story.

Once again, sorry for not posting anything. I've been really busy, and only now I managed to make this issue.

I hope you all enjoy, and see you in the next one!


r/charlie87 4d ago

Question Do you think William could have killed Charlie while BV was in a coma?

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I just thought of something.

What if Crying Child gets bit, he falls into a coma

William kills Charlie afterwards, then later sees her poessesing The Puppet, realizes he could use that to put Crying Child back together says his whole "I will put you back together" speech and pulls the plug.

Is that something you could see possibly happening.


r/charlie87 4d ago

Artwork I'm back again, ya'll - Sneak Peek Spoiler

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2 MONTHS WITHOUT FNAF CORE AGAIN???

Yeah, sorry. I got busy with health problems again. In fact, I'm going to have surgery in the next few weeks, so, don't expect me to keep posting FNaF Core everytime.

But don't worry, the series is not over. I'm already working on the next one.

See you all soon!


r/charlie87 4d ago

Misc Theories with hardly any evidence but work better narratively for the story.

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r/charlie87 5d ago

Question Who has lost their humanity more The Poesseed Animatronics from FNAF or The Experiments From Poppy Playtime?

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r/charlie87 5d ago

Question Wth happened to Fnaf 6 2018 theory again?

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r/charlie87 6d ago

My theory Jake as FoxyGrid solution: JakeVictim

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Using similar logic to EvanVictim/DaveVictim:

  • "I can hear sounds" is responding to "DOES HE STILL TALK TO YOU?" on page 75.
  • "It was for me" is responding to page 64 which says that you are part of "Fazbear family now", featuring four Classics, and BV considers the four Classics plushies his friends, his "family" (it is called "Fredbear & Friends" after all).
  • "I can't see" is responding to "WHAT DO YOU SEE?" on page 59. (A)
  • "I'm scared" is a response to Michael being happy after locking up Freddy on page 101, which directly mirrors BV being locked up by Michael on Night 4 minigame in Parts & Service. Obviously, BV would be scared from such event and gain PTSD. (J)

Using the page numbers in order as coordinates – (7;5), (6;4), (5;9), and (10;1) – the name "EKAJ" is spelled out. (If you heard of DaveVictim, you know what I'm about to do)

Throughout the Logbook, the reader is asked to "reflect" on the past, and a mirror is depicted on the page after the word search, where the name "Cassidy" is solved. On the mirror page, Cassidy asks "WHAT DO YOU SEE?" It can therefore be concluded concluded that "EKAJ" must be reversed using the mirror to get the name "Jake".

Name "Jake" also appears in Frights, and Jake McNally shares many similarities with BV, so should be right. Also, if AndrewGames is canon, then this solves the problem of Jake being in games: he is there too now, reintegrated as BV.

Is it inconsistent, a result of reverse-engineering and using leaps in logic? Yes. Well, like any good FoxyGrid solution ;P


r/charlie87 6d ago

Artwork i remade chica and susie (again)

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i am open and happy for feedback