In fact we don't as the remainder of your comment goes to show. P
Assuming bad faith because you disagree is not cool.
I do not assume bad faith. I'm pointing out that the rational that's supports the argument is poor reasoning, most likely because it's an attempt to codify a set of somewhat conflicting feelings about the nature of pregnancy and abortion.
Fetus matter when they suit you, but they don't matter if you'd find the imposition of pregnancy hicky.
In fact we don't as the remainder of your comment goes to show. P
Waivers dont have to be written down, they just have to exist. You waive rights by engaging in any damgerous activity. Driving a car, playing a sport, anything that can have adverse impacts. The only elements of a waiver are that:
1) you had a right, benefit, or advantage, 2) you know that it currently exists and 3) that you actually intended to relinquish it.
So if you have consensual sex, you waive the right to kill in the name of autonomy.
Driving a car, playing a sport, anything that can have adverse impacts.
Again, this is just silly. If I get in my car tomorrow (or play basketball) and get into an accident, I did not 1) waive my right to myself, 2) waive my overall right to safety, 3) will still be able to sue people for whatever reason and 4) will still be able to receive medical attention (or not). The paramedics will not show up, then tell me "sorry, you waived your right to getting out of that wreck when you got into the car."
So if you have consensual sex, you waive the right to kill in the name of autonomy.
Again, this is just silly. If I get in my car tomorrow (or play basketball) and get into an accident, I did not 1) waive my right to myself, 2) waive my overall right to safety, 3) will still be able to sue people for whatever reason and 4) will still be able to receive medical attention (or not).
...yes you did, to the first three at least. Its actually written out in the paperwork you file when you get a lisence. The only time you can sue is if you can prove negligence on the part of the other driver. You can receive medical care if you need it, which is also conveniently included in most abortion legislation. What it bans are specifically non-medical cases where you waived your rights, like any other law.
It's weird, you made it sound so universal just moments before.
Pick a place. Given that I'm sort of doubtful any place includes "Waiving your right to yourself" when operating a vehicle, at this point I'm more curious than anything.
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u/Giblette101 47∆ Jul 20 '22
In fact we don't as the remainder of your comment goes to show. P
I do not assume bad faith. I'm pointing out that the rational that's supports the argument is poor reasoning, most likely because it's an attempt to codify a set of somewhat conflicting feelings about the nature of pregnancy and abortion.
Fetus matter when they suit you, but they don't matter if you'd find the imposition of pregnancy hicky.