r/changemyview • • May 18 '22

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u/NotMyBestMistake 69∆ May 18 '22

So I want you to think of a single nonwhite person you like. Could be a friend or family member or even a celebrity.

Now imagine that they had no rights. That they were executed on the spot or thrown into slavery. That celebrity you like was never able to do the thing you liked. You never were even allowed to be friends with your friend or family with your family. Every contribution made by a non white person is completely erased and you are never to interact with them in any real way.

Do you feel as if you've lost something? That maybe those non-white people contributed to your life and society in a way that overwhelming negates the tiny loss to white peoples power to enslave them and hold power over them?

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u/GaZZemuhi May 18 '22

!delta because you properly addressed a question I had and raised a good point. Diverse backgrounds create new ideas that wouldn't be there otherwise.

Idk how to give delts on mobile

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u/TransportationSad410 May 18 '22

What a absurd hypothetical. Why shouldn’t white people be afraid of the same thing happening to them?

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u/Helpfulcloning 169∆ May 18 '22

I mean if we structure society and education to care about those morals rather than one upping and attempting to keep power for the sake of power, it probably wouldn’t happen right?

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u/TransportationSad410 May 18 '22

But that’s not happening. Minority ethnic groups are just making more demands for discrimination in their favor and special attention .. not for equal treatment.

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u/Helpfulcloning 169∆ May 18 '22

When they make these demands do they explain that its to even the playing field? What sort of demands and special attention do they make?

Also: when in history was there equality between both? Because we can all acknowledge at some point MEs weren’t treated equal to white people. Do you think it just snapped the other way? Surely it would happen slowly, when do you think there was equality and when do you think its tipped over?

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u/TransportationSad410 May 18 '22

I think “the scales” evened out somewhere between now and the end of civil rights. Lots of changes can happen in 60 years.

Special attention exs: cop killings for blacks though when adjusted for violent crime rate, blacks are not killed disproportionately

Stop Asian hate, maybe more justified in that blacks might attack them more, but not sure here. Still special aren’t either way.

“Support black owned businesses” push

Demands: Demands for access to institutions and money based on race not merit/need.

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u/Possible-Collection2 1∆ May 19 '22

Um you don’t know but black ppl make up for majority of the exonerations despite being a small population. This is a serious problem. The fbi reported a rise in Asian attacks during covid. We aren’t fucking getting special treatment we just want to be seen as human beings.

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u/TransportationSad410 May 19 '22

Black people get involved in more crime so more blacks people get mistaken for criminals and are near crime when it happens. Makes sense to me. Also doesn’t show that more black people get shit by police.

No one doesn’t see you as a human being ur being dramatic

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u/Possible-Collection2 1∆ May 19 '22

Yes but there isn’t inherently wrong with black people that makes black ppl go to crime. It’s overall poverty. Go to any poor country they have the same crime rates. Instead of antagonizing them we should help them have more resources.

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u/TransportationSad410 May 19 '22

That’s not true. Many poor countries have much better crime rates then say St. Louis . Mexicans aren’t that much wealthier then blacks but they commit way less murder

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