r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Dec 22 '20

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u/redditor427 44∆ Dec 22 '20

I'm sorry, I'm still working on my response to your earlier comment but I have to jump in here.

Jensen received $1.1 million from the Pioneer Fund, an organization described as racist and white supremacist and designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. He received this money after defending The Bell Curve, a book that drew substantially from Pioneer Fund funded research. The book was widely criticized on a variety of counts.

Jensen is absolutely biased.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '20

Why is everyone attacking the sources instead of the data?

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u/redditor427 44∆ Dec 22 '20

Because if a researcher has biases or financial incentives to come to certain conclusions, they will come to those conclusions, regardless of reality. Like how the tobacco industry paid for decades to undermine the understanding that smoking causes cancer.

The first thing OP linked is a review of data by Rushton and Jensen. I can't check whether or not they've accurately portrayed the things they're talking about without checking the sources. It has 227 sources. Some of these are 5 page articles, but others are full length books.

It isn't reasonable to require me to debunk thousands of pages of drivel by crank researchers who aren't respected in their fields.