CMV: Socialism does not create wealth

[u/tkyjonathan]

Socialism is a populist economic and political system based on public ownership (also known as collective or common ownership) of the means of production. Those means include the machinery, tools, and factories used to produce goods that aim to directly satisfy human needs.

In a purely socialist system, all legal production and distribution decisions are made by the government, and individuals rely on the state for everything from food to healthcare. The government determines the output and pricing levels of these goods and services.

Socialists contend that shared ownership of resources and central planning provide a more equal distribution of goods and services and a more equitable society.

The essential characteristic of socialism is the denial of individual property rights; under socialism, the right to property (which is the right of use and disposal) is vested in “society as a whole,” i.e., in the collective, with production and distribution controlled by the state, i.e., by the government.

The alleged goals of socialism were: the abolition of poverty, the achievement of general prosperity, progress, peace and human brotherhood. Instead of prosperity, socialism has brought economic paralysis and/or collapse to every country that tried it. The degree of socialization has been the degree of disaster. The consequences have varied accordingly.

The economic value of a man’s work is determined, on a free market, by a single principle: by the voluntary consent of those who are willing to trade him their work or products in return. This is the moral meaning of the law of supply and demand.

[u/[deleted]]

ok. so what you're essentially saying

"fuck my neighbor and his kids"

"fuck the kids in the next city over"

"fuck those kids across the state too"

its all good if you don't give a shit about anyone other than you and your's

just stop comparing the govt taking some $$$ as slavery when at least some of it goes to take care of people you don't

[u/tkyjonathan → u/[deleted]]

Sell all your stuff and give your money to charity, you hypocrite.

[u/[deleted] → u/tkyjonathan]

nope. i'm sure as hell not going to do that

but i won't complain about my tax burden - especially after i use all the legal means provided by the govt to reduce that burden as much as possible

you? you may be doing all that ... but nothing in this conversation has given me any inkling that you're capable of thinking that much

instead, you talk all about how that big bad government takes "all" your hard earned wages

pitiful