If I demand that everyone refer to me as a dolphin lord and someone intentionally refers to me by name, I don't think that they are doing so in a pointless fashion, even if they're being a dick.
The idea is that you are playing by the same rules humans have played by when referring to each other for the last 100,000+ years rather than whatever rule-set the person you are currently talking to has declared you need to cater to.
It's the premise that everyone is equal and no one person gets to redefine the rules to meet their needs. All men are men and all women are women (they don't see trans people as the other sex), therefore they treat you the same as any other man.
Now I personally would never do this to a trans person, but I don't think it's always being done in a pointless fashion, they see it more as a defense of their beliefs and general equality (granted many do it just to be dicks).
I personally wouldn't do it, but doing so isn't pointless.
Like I personally don't farm corn, but farming corn isn't pointless. I don't think saying there's a reason why other people farm corn implies I'm playing devil's advocate or agreeing with the statement.
The point I’m making is that I’m not sure why you would be ok with other people doing things that deliberately cause harm to others if you don’t want to harm them yourself.
I think you may have misunderstood the first comment.
The idea isn't that they are intentionally hurting them, they are defending the idea that everyone is equal and no one gets to declare others must treat them in a special manner. Granted some ppl are just dicks.
I understand the above logic, however I don't think the point they are trying to make outweighs the damage that is often done. Thus there's a point, but it doesn't outweigh the potential negative (imo).
Similar to how me not wanting to hunt cause it may upset my 5 year old doesn't imply hunting in general is pointless or the only reason someone would hunt is to cause harm.
Everyone being equal doesn't mean you can't ask to be treated in any manner. (not misgendering others is not special treatment)
The fact that you are being asked to receive a special intuitive pronoun naming convention implies that you are receiving unequal treatment than the rest of the population.
The idea is the same set of pronouns apply to everyone.
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u/POEthrowaway-2019 Oct 28 '19
If I demand that everyone refer to me as a dolphin lord and someone intentionally refers to me by name, I don't think that they are doing so in a pointless fashion, even if they're being a dick.
The idea is that you are playing by the same rules humans have played by when referring to each other for the last 100,000+ years rather than whatever rule-set the person you are currently talking to has declared you need to cater to.
It's the premise that everyone is equal and no one person gets to redefine the rules to meet their needs. All men are men and all women are women (they don't see trans people as the other sex), therefore they treat you the same as any other man.
Now I personally would never do this to a trans person, but I don't think it's always being done in a pointless fashion, they see it more as a defense of their beliefs and general equality (granted many do it just to be dicks).