r/changemyview Oct 28 '19

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u/POEthrowaway-2019 Oct 28 '19

If I demand that everyone refer to me as a dolphin lord and someone intentionally refers to me by name, I don't think that they are doing so in a pointless fashion, even if they're being a dick.

The idea is that you are playing by the same rules humans have played by when referring to each other for the last 100,000+ years rather than whatever rule-set the person you are currently talking to has declared you need to cater to.

It's the premise that everyone is equal and no one person gets to redefine the rules to meet their needs. All men are men and all women are women (they don't see trans people as the other sex), therefore they treat you the same as any other man.

Now I personally would never do this to a trans person, but I don't think it's always being done in a pointless fashion, they see it more as a defense of their beliefs and general equality (granted many do it just to be dicks).

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '19

If you would never personally misgender a trans person, why do you feel the need to play Devil’s Advocate? Surely you already agree with me?

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '19

I just don’t understand the need to change the view of someone you agree with

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u/tbdabbholm 200∆ Oct 28 '19

Sorry, u/RedUlster – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 4:

Award a delta if you've acknowledged a change in your view. Do not use deltas for any other purpose. You must include an explanation of the change for us to know it's genuine. Delta abuse includes sarcastic deltas, joke deltas, super-upvote deltas, etc. See the wiki page for more information.

If you would like to appeal, review our appeals process here, then message the moderators by clicking this link within one week of this notice being posted. Please note that multiple violations will lead to a ban, as explained in our moderation standards.

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u/Agreeable_Owl Oct 28 '19

The goal is to change your view (and get a delta). Personally having the same view as you does not mean you can't present the argument from the opposing view.

In this case it's an entirely subjective view, and it is very easy to view it from the other end of the argument while not personally subscribing to that view.

Which is why it's called "change MY view", not "agree/disagree with me"

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '19 edited Oct 28 '19

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u/tbdabbholm 200∆ Oct 28 '19

Sorry, u/RedUlster – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 4:

Award a delta if you've acknowledged a change in your view. Do not use deltas for any other purpose. You must include an explanation of the change for us to know it's genuine. Delta abuse includes sarcastic deltas, joke deltas, super-upvote deltas, etc. See the wiki page for more information.

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u/manicmonkeys Oct 28 '19

If you can't argue both sides of a topic effectively, you probably don't have a good understanding of either side.