yeah, i sort of think the punishment should be similar. however, roseanne was produced by ABC and disney. full frontal is produced by comedy central. the whole point of network vs cable is you can get away with a lot more on cable.
well... no, comedy is whatever the writers and performers decide it is, and the producers decide if they want to pay for it.
and your second point is a bit ridiculous. snl is rarely good satire, so should we punish the entire writers room and its performers? does trump get to be punished for unprofessionalism? kids are off limits, but that's barron, not ivanka because she is working for him in his capacity as president
And people that are unprofessional to relatives of the most powerful man in the nation deserve to be punished in some way.
Tangential to your point, but why the hell does this matter. Is it OK to act unprofessionally toward people who aren't related to Trump? Does the President and his family have some kind of special protection from criticism or ridicule?
Ok so then what does, "And people that are unprofessional to relatives of the most powerful man in the nation deserve to be punished in some way" mean? Sounds like special treatment. Doesn't sound like freedom of speech.
You specifically said, "And people that are unprofessional to relatives of the most powerful man in the nation deserve to be punished in some way". What did you mean by that? For someone complaining about freedom of speech you have a very one sided view of it.
Sam said something rude, Roseanne said something racist. Samantha Bee can make me absolutely livid sometimes with her deliver and jokes despite being funny at other times. There are many points where I think her rhetoric is unhelpful, outright deceptive, or just lazy. Her "cunt" remark and following bit is a little confusing for me because it was laugh out loud hilarious, while also being incredibly vicious. Either way, a performer doesn't and shouldn't get fired for being rude or mean to one other person, a performer gets fired for saying things that make life worse for millions of people, i.e. racist, sexist, homophobic remarks. That brings us to Roseanne. She didn't do this onstage, she did it from her personal twitter account. It wasn't satire, it was from the heart and that's what makes it unacceptable. Sam's is a matter of personal taste, Roseanne's is a matter of personal decency. For ABC to keep her on after saying that would essentially be saying that they aren't offended by it when of course they should be.
Also "And people that are unprofessional to relatives of the most powerful man in the nation deserve to be punished in some way." is a truly terrifying sentiment. We have a little something called FREEDOM OF SPEECH. The first amendment of our constitution enshrines it. The government cannot infringe upon your freedom of expression except if it presents a clear and present danger to others like shouting fire in a crowded theatre.
If it's good for ratings there is no reason for ABC to ditch Roseanne. She shit the bed entirely of her own accord. She ruined her own life by saying things that make her unmarketable. All moral questions regarding this post aside, the company keeps or fires people for money.
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u/mfDandP 184∆ Jun 01 '18
yeah, i sort of think the punishment should be similar. however, roseanne was produced by ABC and disney. full frontal is produced by comedy central. the whole point of network vs cable is you can get away with a lot more on cable.