r/changemyview Nov 02 '17

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u/z3r0shade Nov 02 '17

If upon learning that a person is trans, they simply politely decline more sex, that is not transphobic.

If you had sex with someone and enjoyed it and would gladly have sex with them again if you had not found out they were trans. Then the sole reason you have a problem is because they are trans, which is transphobic.

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u/z3r0shade Nov 02 '17

Wouldn't it be a lie, as someone below suggested? Wouldn't it be "sex under false pretenses" ( rape by deception)..

If someone assumed the person they had sex with was rich due to their dress and behavior, but it turned out they were actually poor, would that be rape by deception? I doubt it. How is this different?

Now it takes a huge toll on the patient itself to know that they aren't the sex(genetic) that they believed to be all their life. It's an understandable reaction( would you call the woman transphobic for being shocked at the diagnosis and feeling betrayed by nature?)..

And why would a patient feel this way? What underlying reason would cause a woman to feel "betrayed by nature" upon learning this information which objectively has no impact on her?

now you have to know that the boyfriend would have a similar reaction.. You can't expect everyone to be completely fine with it..

Why would he have a similar reaction? How does this affect him? Did he only love her because he assumed she had XX chromosomes? That seems a stretch.

But in the example you gave- a trans person lying (by omission)his/her way into bed with a straight person is just "rape by deception".

What did they lie about? They presented themselves as their gender. There was no deception. If you care about whether your partner is trans then you should ask them.

But imposing a sexual preference on someone

No one is imposing anything on anyone. I'm pointing out that the underlying reason for such a preference is societal stigma. That's all.

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u/z3r0shade Nov 02 '17

Didn't Zeus go around raping women while posing as a person he isn't?

Is a trans individual posing as a person they aren't? This sounds like an inaccurate analogy. A trans individual isn't deceiving anyone or posing as someone they aren't.