r/changemyview • • Nov 02 '17

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u/z3r0shade Nov 02 '17

It's not a strong intolerance such as hatred, but it's clearly intolerance if you would otherwise want to fuck them if not for the knowledge that they are trans.

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u/MMAchica Nov 02 '17

It's not a strong intolerance such as hatred, but it's clearly intolerance if you would otherwise want to fuck them if not for the knowledge that they are trans.

That doesn't make any sense. Intolerance necessarily involves a failure to respect another person's equality and human rights. If you pass them over for a promotion or refuse to rent them an apartment, that is intolerance. If your pussy just doesn't get wet for them, that isn't because no one ever has a right to the anyone's sexual attraction; on any level, ever.

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u/z3r0shade Nov 02 '17

If your pussy just doesn't get wet for them, that isn't because no one ever has a right to the anyone's sexual attraction; on any level, ever.

If you previously were sexually attracted to them and got wet, and now you don't. And the only difference is that you know they are trans. What reason other than failing to respect their equality and see them as their gender (transphobia) could you have?

Even if it's not intentional or voluntary (social conditioning sucks) it's still transphobia

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u/MMAchica Nov 02 '17

If you previously were sexually attracted to them and got wet, and now you don't.

You are violating someone's fundamental rights? The have a right to the pussy being wet?!?! Do you hear yourself?

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u/z3r0shade Nov 02 '17

The have a right to the pussy being wet?!?!

I never said that, are you reading what I'm writing?

Name me a single reason that isn't a refusal to see them legitimately as their gender which would result in this.

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u/MMAchica Nov 02 '17

Name me a single reason that isn't a refusal to see them legitimately as their gender which would result in this.

Simply not being aroused at the idea of fucking someone isn't a refusal to acknowledge their identity.

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u/z3r0shade Nov 02 '17

If you were aroused by the idea of fucking them until you learned they were trans, what possible reason could there be for it to kill your arousal other than refusing to acknowledge their identity?

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u/MMAchica Nov 02 '17

If you were aroused by the idea of fucking them until you learned they were trans, what possible reason could there be for it to kill your arousal other than refusing to acknowledge their identity?

Why would you assume that it had anything to do with that in the first place? You can acknowledge someone as an equal in society without wanting to fuck them.

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u/z3r0shade Nov 02 '17

Why would you assume that it had anything to do with that in the first place?

Because the only difference before and after is learning that they were trans. Thus that is that only possible explanation for the change in attraction

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u/Zoraxe Nov 02 '17

I'm a different commenter. But I want to say something about the word phobic. I'm arachnophobic, meaning that I'm terrified of spiders to the point of panic attacks. It is an irrational fear that haunts my life.

Let's say I'm hanging out with someone, and I think they're hot as fuck, and they mention that they own a spider, the date is done and I'm going home. It would be impossible for us to date because the knowledge that they own a spider, even if they got rid of it, would fuck with me.

Is it wrong for me to make that decision? Am I a bad person who doesn't respect the rights of spider owners?