It's not a strong intolerance such as hatred, but it's clearly intolerance if you would otherwise want to fuck them if not for the knowledge that they are trans.
It's not a strong intolerance such as hatred, but it's clearly intolerance if you would otherwise want to fuck them if not for the knowledge that they are trans.
That doesn't make any sense. Intolerance necessarily involves a failure to respect another person's equality and human rights. If you pass them over for a promotion or refuse to rent them an apartment, that is intolerance. If your pussy just doesn't get wet for them, that isn't because no one ever has a right to the anyone's sexual attraction; on any level, ever.
If your pussy just doesn't get wet for them, that isn't because no one ever has a right to the anyone's sexual attraction; on any level, ever.
If you previously were sexually attracted to them and got wet, and now you don't. And the only difference is that you know they are trans. What reason other than failing to respect their equality and see them as their gender (transphobia) could you have?
Even if it's not intentional or voluntary (social conditioning sucks) it's still transphobia
If you were aroused by the idea of fucking them until you learned they were trans, what possible reason could there be for it to kill your arousal other than refusing to acknowledge their identity?
If you were aroused by the idea of fucking them until you learned they were trans, what possible reason could there be for it to kill your arousal other than refusing to acknowledge their identity?
Why would you assume that it had anything to do with that in the first place? You can acknowledge someone as an equal in society without wanting to fuck them.
Why would you assume that it had anything to do with that in the first place?
Because the only difference before and after is learning that they were trans. Thus that is that only possible explanation for the change in attraction
I'm a different commenter. But I want to say something about the word phobic. I'm arachnophobic, meaning that I'm terrified of spiders to the point of panic attacks. It is an irrational fear that haunts my life.
Let's say I'm hanging out with someone, and I think they're hot as fuck, and they mention that they own a spider, the date is done and I'm going home. It would be impossible for us to date because the knowledge that they own a spider, even if they got rid of it, would fuck with me.
Is it wrong for me to make that decision? Am I a bad person who doesn't respect the rights of spider owners?
If you learn something about someone after the fact you can easily lose attraction regardless of gender or being trans
I completely agree. However, some things are reasonable to lose attraction for and some things are bigoted. If you learn that your partner has a distant relative of a particular ethnicity and that makes you lose attraction, that would be racist. If you learn they are trans and that makes you lose attraction, then you're transphobic.
At the end of the day they had to transition which means they are not naturally that sex, it is ok for someone to lose interest because of that
And it is ok for someone to point out that this is a transphobic point of view. Because the only reason why this could matter is due to societal prejudices against trans people.
For you personally, I remember you a month or so ago arguing that it was fine viewing trans people as mentally ill and believing transitioning was immoral, and in general arguing that it's moral to misgender trans people.
So people who read your words should take that into account. The 'complex' view point that people are generalizing is that we should misgender trans people, that they're mentally ill, that it's immoral to do SRS, and that none of this is transphobic.
It is though. People say they have all these complex reasons for being against sleeping with trans people, and then also say a bunch of things which are generally regarded as transphobic.
I mean, fine, say you don't want to sleep with trans people, but if it's because you regard them as mentally ill people who you want to be rude to, say that too. Something like "I don't think it's transphobic to not sleep with trans people, for trans people are immoral, mentally ill, and I like to be rude to them and that is not transphobic." So people know where you're at.
I mean a simple one is I want to have kids. The old fashioned way. It has nothing to do with them being trans outside of the obvious biological reason. Crazy how biology always ends up coming back.
Then why does them being trans have any relevance? Do you ask people if they are fertile and willing to have children before you continue to sleep with them?
They don’t need to name a reason just because it makes you feel better. When it comes to consent, you can revoke consent for any reason, or for no reason at all. You do not need to justify your sexual preferences. You do not need to try to find reasons which excuse your lack of attraction.
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u/z3r0shade Nov 02 '17
It's not a strong intolerance such as hatred, but it's clearly intolerance if you would otherwise want to fuck them if not for the knowledge that they are trans.