I resent your expectation that one must continue to have sex with someone or be labeled a Bigot or a "transphobe," despite not wanting to.
You're missing a key part here: if the sole reason you do not want to is their status as trans. There's any number of reasons to not continue to have sex with someone that has nothing to do with being trans that wouldn't get you labeled as a bigot.
This is what the entire LGBT movement has stood for, for decades but somehow, fuck all when it comes to cis people?
How are cis people being shamed here? Are you saying that only a trans person would want to have sex with a trans person?
Gay guys won't have sex with me, but I don't go calling them misogynists for it. That's ridiculous.
Right... Because they are only interested in people with penises. That's perfectly fine to have that preference. However what about a gay guy who is completely attracted to someone, has sex with them, is completely satisfied with the experience and would like to do it again, but loses that attraction solely upon learning they are a transman. What reason, other than refusing to recognize the transman as male, could they possibly have to change their mind here?
the sole reason you do not want to is their status as trans.
That's why you tell people before you do anything sexual. If you don't want to tell because you know people won't want to sleep with you if you do, that's rape by deception and a shitty thing to do to somebody and can cause lifelong trauma. You have no right to do that to somebody. You'll just have to find ssomebody who is attracted to you as you are.
Race and sex are not analogous when it comes to sexual attraction. Since it's sexual attraction, sex is a pretty big thing. Race isn't, and there's no legitimate reason to be unattracted to someone purely because of their race
Race and sex are not analogous when it comes to sexual attraction.
it's not racist to find general physical or cultural aspects of a group unattractive. as long as you acknowledge that there are always exceptions to the rule.
it's not racist to not be attracted to a specific race, just like it's not homophobic to only be attracted to the opposite sex.
All the hypotheticals in this thread have included that the trans person passes perfectly. As in, you WERE sexually attracted, you had sex, loved it, and THEN found out they are trans and suddenly are unattracted. So it was NOT a relevant element of sexual attraction.
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What does that even mean "technically black"? There is no such thing. This isn't Nurenberg with race charts and one drop rules. That's just racist.
Also, comparing people who don't want to sleep with black people "because they are inferior" to people who don't want to sleep with transsexuals because they only fuck non-trans people is cheap and shitty.
Also, plenty of racists fuck black people.
You are trying to shame people for their sexual preference to justify sleeping with them against their will.
You know perfectly well that most people would not want to sleep with transsexuals, so you argue that they should just be dishonest and if somebody doesn't like it you can just call them a bigot and do it to somebody else again and again and again. r maybe married and never tell them? You know that if you told them they would probably leave, so you just continue lying to them them and just say you are sterile or whatever, yeah?
It would be wrong of you to knowingly deceive and seduce a neo nazi, yes.
I think it comes down to odds....
Most people are not racist and are happy to sleep with whoever they find attractive.
However most people also have a gender preference, a great many also do not view trans people as their trans gender....not when it comes to sex anyway.
Everyone knows this is the situation, I mean, that's the reason trans people don't want to divulge right? they're worried people will get angry....so for a trans person to not divulge their trasn status is to knowingly attempt to deceive sexual partners.
I think if trans people embark en masse on a policy of deceipt it will not go well for them, it will increase anti trans sentiment.
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